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Re: Idea: A "preserve page count" option when exporting to LaTeX


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  • From: TeXmacs <address@hidden>
  • To: address@hidden
  • Subject: Re: Idea: A "preserve page count" option when exporting to LaTeX
  • Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 17:10:14 +0200
Dear all,

It is not reasonable to hope that we can make TeXmacs behave as LaTeX
or closely to LaTeX. I won't try to implement any things of this kind.

On the other hand, it does make sense to make it easier to switch
between "wide" and "narrow" styles. Indeed, when switching to
a two column style, one often needs to break some big formulas
into parts. It might be interesting to develop more tools that
could assist us in such modifications. For instance, we recently
added the C-& shortcut for switching between equations and
equation arrays.

Best wishes, --Joris


On Sun, May 02, 2021 at 02:24:59PM +0000, Frank wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Conceptually, it could be understood as to make the following two pdf's as
> same as possible:
>
> TeXmacs -> pdf
> TeXmacs -> LaTeX -> pdf
>
> The only possibility that I see to make them identical is to embed the pdf
> produced by TeXmacs in the LaTeX output. This is of course not something
> that one wants.
>
> The tricky thing is that, LaTeX has its own typesetting algorithm which is
> slightly different from that of TeXmacs, both of which is highly nonlinear.
> It seems arguably difficult to minimize the difference by adding spaces. It
> does not simplify a lot even if you only want to minimize the difference of
> output pages, I suppose.
>
> Therefore I don't think that it is a great task to accomplish for the
> developers of TeXmacs.
>
> Best,
> Frank
>
> 于 May 2, 2021 12:59:55 PM UTC, Massimiliano Gubinelli <address@hidden> 写到:
> >Hi all,
> >maybe in this discussion we should consider also that we already have
> >Tools->LaTeX->Preview which give access to the PDF preview of the LaTeX
> >conversion directly. Tweaking the TeXmacs file to have the correct
> >number of lines would take a typical user just 2-3 iterations.
> >
> >I would like to hear from people for which this task is
> >important/common. In my workflow it never happens to need to meet a
> >strict number of pages, so I do not have a feeling of the importance of
> >such an enhancement.
> >
> >Best
> >Max
> >
> >
> >> On 2. May 2021, at 14:51, Basile Audoly <address@hidden> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Amir,
> >> to me, it is unclear how much you can gain by such tweaking, given
> >that page limits typically come with rules to avoid working around them
> >(such as imposed margin size and font size). I am not fully convinced
> >that this feature would be worth the implementation effort.
> >> Best wishes,
> >> Basile
> >>
> >>> Le 2 mai 2021 à 14:17, Amir Michail <address@hidden
> ><mailto:address@hidden>> a écrit :
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> The idea is that if the TeXmacs document takes k pages, then
> >exporting to LaTeX will generate a document that also takes k pages.
> >>>
> >>> TeXmacs would accomplish this by *automatically* experimenting with
> >the LaTeX output and tweaking some spacing in the TeXmacs document to
> >get the desired output. This (automated) process might take a few tries
> >but should be faster than doing the same thing manually.
> >>>
> >>> All tweaks would be shown to the user to ensure that nothing bad was
> >done.
> >>>
> >>> Such a feature would make it easier to submit papers to
> >conferences/journals with page limits.
> >>>
> >>> What do you think?
> >>>
> >>> Amir
> >>>
> >>
>
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