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Re: working around arXiv' overshoot


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  • From: Frank <address@hidden>
  • To: Giovanni Piredda <address@hidden>, address@hidden
  • Subject: Re: working around arXiv' overshoot
  • Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2021 11:07:22 +0000
Meanwhile, I searched among the source code, but I failed to locate the
checker. There is a line related:
https://github.com/arXiv/arxiv-submission-ui/blob/5cd67e15db72bb8aa4acf686fb3aa8b41727580a/submit/controllers/ui/new/process.py#L202
but I don't see where the code could raise an error with reason containing
"from TeX", say, in
https://github.com/arXiv/arxiv-submission-core/blob/develop/core/arxiv/submission/process/process_source.py

Maybe you could try start a petition at https://www.change.org/ and then
interested people sign it.

Best,
Frank

于 2021年11月20日 UTC 上午10:46:29, Giovanni Piredda <address@hidden> 写到:
>Joris told me that he already did it, with no effect. But some time
>passed, so maybe one can try again. If different people do the same
>report, it may increase the chance of a response, so a good strategy
>could be that *all* interested people submit an issue report.
>
>Giovanni
>
>On 20.11.21 11:31, Frank wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> According to
>> https://github.com/arXiv/arxiv-submission-ui/blob/develop/submit/controllers/ui/new/reasons.py
>> we should report the issue to address@hidden
>>
>> Best,
>> Frank
>>
>> 于 2021年11月19日 UTC 下午3:34:41, Giovanni Piredda <address@hidden> 写到:
>>> I could post an issue in the bug tracker of the ArXiv
>>> (https://github.com/arXiv/arxiv-base/issues), but I would like to hear
>> >from you before I do that. Do you think it is better classifying it
>>> under "bug" or something else?
>>>
>>> G.
>>>
>>> Am 19.11.2021 um 16:29 schrieb TeXmacs:
>>>> Dear Giovanni,
>>>>
>>>> If someone could get a patch accepted that solves this problem at ArXiv,
>>>> then that would be very nice. But I personally have no time for this;
>>>> I just changed 'TeXmacs' to 'T e X m a c s' for the Pdf creator;
>>>> this is a bit ugly, bit it will do for now.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes, --Joris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 02:48:15PM +0000, Giovanni Piredda wrote:
>>>>> Maybe the examination of the code in https://github.com/arXiv could
>>>>> also help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps they accept pull requests.
>>>>>
>>>>> Giovanni
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 19.11.2021 um 11:49 schrieb TeXmacs:
>>>>>> Dear Basile,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for this extremely useful feedback.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is still annoying to not use our real name for the creator/producer.
>>>>>> If I make it 'T e X m a c s', then does that work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes, --Joris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 07:49:47AM +0100, Basile Audoly wrote:
>>>>>>> Dear Joris,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did a few more tests. Bottomline is that arXiv rejects any PDF
>>>>>>> document that matches the string "*tex*" in the /Creator or /Producer
>>>>>>> fields, and the match is case-insensitive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Changing fonts actually has no effect (contrary to what I was writing
>>>>>>> before).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To be specific, changing both /Creator or /Producer to 'T.Xmacs'
>>>>>>> works, but changing to 'Texmacs' or 'GNU Texmacs' fails.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TeX Gyre fonts (Bonum) works just as well, even though "TeX" appears
>>>>>>> in the /BaseFont field: this field seems to be ignored (which makes
>>>>>>> sense).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Basile
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Le 11 nov. 2021 à 19:54, TeXmacs <address@hidden> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Basile,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is a very interesting hack.
>>>>>>>> It would be nice to have some volunteers to investigate this further.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Question 1: if you replace 'TeXmacs' by 'Texmacs' or 'GNU Texmacs'
>>>>>>>> instead of 'T.Xmacs', does it still work?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Question 2: could someone please try with any of the TeX Gyre fonts
>>>>>>>> (which also have TeX in their name)?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Question 3: if you replace 'Computer Modern' with 'Knuth's Modern
>>>>>>>> Font' and (if necessary) occurrences of
>>>>>>>> CMR, CMMI, CMEX, etc. with something else (just on lines with
>>>>>>>> /FontName or /BaseFont), then does this
>>>>>>>> also do the trick?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best wishes, --Joris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 06:52:11PM +0200, Basile Audoly wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> arXiv incorrectly identifies PDF documents produced by TeXmacs as
>>>>>>>>> if they had been produced by LaTeX and blocks them, see my previous
>>>>>>>>> email.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here a dirty but simple hack to work around this:
>>>>>>>>> * change the document font from Computer Modern (a.k.a. Roman) to
>>>>>>>>> Optima—any other font except CM will probably work as well
>>>>>>>>> * export to PDF
>>>>>>>>> * open the PDF document in emacs, search for the string "TeXmacs"
>>>>>>>>> and replace the two occurrences corresponding to the PDF Creator
>>>>>>>>> and Producer with "T.Xmacs"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Of course, this prevents arXiv from being aware of the full content
>>>>>>>>> of the document. Exporting to LaTeX is still a viable (but more
>>>>>>>>> complicated) alternative.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Basile
>>>>>>>>>

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