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  • From: Ryan Cheetham <address@hidden>
  • To: address@hidden
  • Subject: Re: [TeXmacs] finding a role for TeXmacs
  • Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:45:11 +0100

Hi Bass,

Thanks for your suggestion, you clearly understand what I am after and find benefit in the process yourself.
The folding/hiding part is very important. I find it helps psychologically to only concentrate on 5-6 paragraphs
at once, I feel overawed when trying to slog my way through many pages.

I agree about the benefits of having 'everything as a tree', that is why I would love to integrate TeXmacs into my work flow
but could not possibly give up the benefits I get from mind mapping in the writing process.

Ryan

Bas Spitters wrote:
I have experimented with the following way of making outlines for my papers.

Use folds for sections/subsections/.... Write the header in first part of the fold and the content of the section in the second part. When writing I only unfold the parts that I am working on. The same thing can be done with theorems and proofs.

This is probably not exactly what you are asking for, but might be a step in the right direction.

One of the very strong points of texmacs is that `everything is a tree'. However, this has not been applied to sections or proofs. I guess this is due to the latex heritage. I could imagine this it would be good it change this in future versions of texmacs.

Bas

On Monday 17 September 2007 18:43:54 address@hidden wrote:
Greetings Offray,

If you wish to define physical styles and use attributes in FreeMind you
will need the new Beta:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=7118&package_id=18877
2

Of course, this is not considered stable for production so use at your own
risk! I agree with you about the desirability of an outline option in
TeXmacs. Outliners and mind mappers really allow one to concentrate on the
structure of a document, but as I have said, rarely can this be transferred
to the completed article (pun intended).

Leo is a great tool too, if a little complicated. Please take a look at
this essay template I created in FreeMind, hopefully it will give some idea
as to how FreeMind could be used in conjunction with TeXmacs to write
articles, books, etc. if there was an import/export option.

http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=freemindtemplatewi0.png

Best wishes,

Ryan


address@hidden wrote:
Hi all,

I use freemind and TeXmacs as primary tools on every day basis (both on
a basic level and even I didn't know that there is away to define
personal styles for nodes in freemind). I also use Leo[1] at lot for
workflows in my daily use of computers. What would be nice is to have
the possibility to define an outline view of TeXmacs documents in a
lateral bar, something that can show you the sections, subsections,
quotations, etc. You can make a sketch outline of your document there
including mathematical notation for titles and in general using the
enriched symbolic notation and writing that your thought need and then,
fill the outline with contents as you advance in your work.

There is any way to get this pane with a tree view of the document and
at the same time the document, so we can think in the part and the all
in easy ways, using TeXmacs?

Cheers,


Offray

[1] http://webpages.charter.net/edreamleo/front.html

address@hidden wrote:
Hello Joris,

Thanks for your reply. I believe FreeMind's file format is XML, and it
evolves slightly from version to version. There are XSLT and Ruby
scripts for conversion to LaTex. Some are included in FreeMind's
accessories folder, some (possibly not the same ones) are here:

http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Accessories

I'm personally not familiar with LaTex, and with this method only basic
structure appears in TeXmacs. What is interesting about FreeMind is
that you can assign attributes to nodes, and define filters and styles.
I think these features would help when exporting to TeXmacs. The two
tools could work together wonderfully. I will send you a sample map if
you are interested? No problems if you are too busy though.

All the best,

Ryan






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