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Re: Why not create a standalone viewer for .tm files?


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  • From: Amir Michail <address@hidden>
  • To: Pedro Diaz Simal <address@hidden>
  • Cc: TeXmacs <address@hidden>, texmacs-users <address@hidden>
  • Subject: Re: Why not create a standalone viewer for .tm files?
  • Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 07:59:43 -0500



On Nov 29, 2020, at 7:35 AM, Pedro Diaz Simal <address@hidden> wrote:

You already have the pdf format for this purpose


I agree that .tm files should not replace pdf files but they could be given in addition to pdf files.

A browser plugin for .tm files would allow you to have many TeXmacs features helpful for better viewing of a document that are not available with pdf files (e.g., word wrapping at the window edge).

It would also allow LaTeX users to see a demonstration of TeXmacs via other people’s papers — and hence acts as a form of marketing.

Amir

Regards

El dom., 29 nov. 2020 13:18, Amir Michail <address@hidden> escribió:


> On Nov 29, 2020, at 6:37 AM, TeXmacs <address@hidden> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I don't see an easy way to create a viewer that would essentially be different
> from TeXmacs itself.  So it seems to be a lot of effort for a debatable gain.
>
> On the other hand, a related idea is to be able use TeXmacs as a plug-in
> inside browsers.  I think that this might be very interesting for certain
> use scenarios.  I did not investigate for a while, but I remember that Qt
> used to simplify this task, so it might be doable without too much pain.
>

On a related note, maybe there could be a way to specify a maximum line width (without modifying the document settings)? In this way, word wrapping could be done at the window edge provided that the window is not too wide. This would be especially useful in full screen mode — which would often be activated when using a browser

Amir

> Best wishes, --Joris
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 08:59:40AM +0000, Sam Liddicott wrote:
>>   You basically want a build where editing is forbidden.
>>   Microsoft released a stand-alone viewer for Microsoft word because they
>>   didn't want to enable editing for licensing reasons.
>>   Editing was denied to people who hadn't paid.
>>   Why should texmacs editing capabilities be denied to anyone?
>>   However, MS Office currently has an initial read-only mode for files
>>   downloaded or received by email, and an "enable editing" button is shown.
>>   Maybe there is some benefits in that for texmacs to prevent execution of
>>   external commands by document macros for those operating systems that have
>>   some well-defined system for identifying downloaded files.
>>   Sam
>>   Sam
>>   Sam
>>   On Sun, 22 Nov 2020, 18:45 Amir Michail, <[1]address@hidden> wrote:
>>
>>     Hello,
>>
>>     I was wondering if it would make sense for the TeXmacs team to create a
>>     standalone viewer for .tm files.
>>
>>     Unlike PDFs, this would at the very least allow you to have word
>>     wrapping occur at the window edge and there would be no need for page
>>     breaking.
>>
>>     Although exporting to HTML does allow this kind of word wrapping, the
>>     document visual quality is not as good as what would be possible with a
>>     TeXmacs viewer.
>>
>>     And of course, a TeXmacs viewer could go much further than PDFs while
>>     protecting document integrity (e.g., you might be able to restyle the
>>     document, mark it up, etc. without messing up the original content.).
>>
>>     What do you think?
>>
>>     Amir
>>
>> References
>>
>>   Visible links
>>   1. mailto:address@hidden
>> /usr/bin/xdg-open: line 402: htmlview: command not found
>> /usr/bin/xdg-open: line 402: firefox: command not found
>> /usr/bin/xdg-open: line 402: mozilla: command not found
>> /usr/bin/xdg-open: line 402: netscape: command not found





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