- From: Joris van der Hoeven <address@hidden>
- To: Daniele Pighin <address@hidden>
- Cc: TeXmacs Users <address@hidden>
- Subject: Re: [TeXmacs] proposal: float positioning relative to the environment
- Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 12:52:23 +0100 (CET)
Hi Daniele,
Sorry for the late reply...
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Daniele Pighin wrote:
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Hi there,
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I'm finally writing my thesis and struggling with floats :)
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(well, I'm very very happy that using floats does no longer result in making
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the editor unusable, anyhow)
Strange; I did not change anything; they are still quite unstable...
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I was wondering wether it was possible to go for a more WYSIWINeed approach,
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that is: rather than placing floats relative to the page (top, bottom and so
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on) placing them relative to the environment.
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I'll try to explain myself.
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It is annoying (and sometimes makes floats useless) that a figure that
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should
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be placed in section "1.1 goats and sheeps", representing a plumpy sheep
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licking the grass around, is actually displayed under section "1.2 the camel
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and the bee", just because, say, the latter section begins on the very same
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page in which I have added the float.
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To make things worse, when you are working in texmacs, especially for large
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documents, it is very likely that you don't know where a page begins or
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ends,
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so it doesn't make that sense talking about a top and a bottom.
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Furthermore, this kind of placement is layout rather than structure
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oriented,
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and TeXmacs claims, among other things, to set the user free of the need to
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worry about the layout, at least as far as it is possible.
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I think that it wold be lovely to control floats' positioning relative to
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the
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environment I've added them, so that I can have the float displayed, say:
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- everywhere within the very same paragraph
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- everywhere within the environment i'm in
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- everywhere within the parent environment (if there is a parent
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environment,
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of course).
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Wouldn't such an approach be more intuitive and closer to what floats are
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meant to be, objects that can be placed wherever thay make sense?
All this is indeed a worthy suggestion which should be put on our wish list.
One may also consider a special environment like "don't place floats
outside this environment". If you want floats to remain inside a section,
then you would just englobe the whole section in this environment.
Best wishes, Joris
- Re: [TeXmacs] proposal: float positioning relative to the environment, Joris van der Hoeven, 01/12/2004
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