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[Norbert Nemec <address@hidden>]

Thanks for the idea, but it is at best a workaround for an emergency. The 
main 
advantage of TeXmacs for me is, that I'm faster writing formulas in TeXmacs 
than doing the same thing by hand (if I want to have the result half-ways 
readable) Therefore I got used to do all my analytic calculations directly in 
TeXmacs.

Anyway: this only works since I have all kinds of keybinding hard-wired into 
my brain - and you have no idea how often you actually use the Alt-key until 
you try to work around it...

Ciao,
Norbert



Am Dienstag, 30. November 2004 08:39 schrieb Kai Sattler:
> Maybe you can use the ESCAPE key as a workaround for the time being.
> The TeXmacs 'Help->Manual->Getting started' states that "... you may
> use ESCAPE instead of M-, ESCAPE ESCAPE instead of A- and F5, ESCAPE
> ESCAPE ESCAPE or A-C- instead of H-".
>
> Kai
>
> 2004-11-29 22:37:20 +0100, Norbert Nemec <address@hidden>:
> > (Forwarding this to address@hidden also)
> >
> > Thanks, Lionel! Seems like this really is a serious communication-bug.
> > Emacs and X have obviously sorted it out by now, both patching around a
> > bit. Now it is up to TeXmacs to follow suit and fix the problem as well
> > (probably in a similar way as Emacs.
> >
> > For me, the problem is rather fundamental. I did not manage to find any
> > setting that allows me to comfortably work in TeXmacs, so I basically
> > have to do without until the problem is fixed. I would do it myself, but
> > I don't really have the time at the moment :-(
> >
> > Ciao,
> > Nobbi
> >
> > Am Montag, 29. November 2004 21:33 schrieb Lionel Elie Mamane:
> > > On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 09:16:47PM +0100, Norbert Nemec wrote:
> > > > I didn't use TeXmacs over several weeks, no I opened it again and
> > > > found to my surprise, that the Alt-Key is suddenly mapped to the
> > > > M-modifier. (under Linux/Debian)
> > >
> > > The way X does modifiers has changed. This broke at least Emacs,
> > > TeXmacs and sawfish (I think also the KDE wm); the X guys say that
> > > these programs are broken. A "fix" for Emacs is now in the Debian
> > > package.
> > >
> > > See:
> > >  http://bugs.debian.org/271542
> > >  http://bugs.debian.org/255286
> > >  http://bugs.debian.org/263073
> > >  http://bugs.debian.org/256706
> > >
> > > The emacs fix:
> > >
> > > --- emacs-21.3+1.orig/src/xterm        2004-09-14 19:06:11.000000000
> > > +0200 +++ emacs-21.3+1/src/xterm.c   2004-09-16 22:23:24.000000000
> > > +0200 @@ -6380,8 +6380,11 @@
> > >       Alt keysyms are on.  */
> > >    {
> > >      int row, col;     /* The row and column in the modifier table.  */
> > > +    int found_alt_or_meta;
> > >
> > >      for (row = 3; row < 8; row++)
> > > +    {
> > > +      found_alt_or_meta = 0;
> > >        for (col = 0; col < mods->max_keypermod; col++)
> > >        {
> > >          KeyCode code
> > > @@ -6403,33 +6406,44 @@
> > >                  {
> > >                  case XK_Meta_L:
> > >                  case XK_Meta_R:
> > > +                  found_alt_or_meta = 1;
> > >                    dpyinfo->meta_mod_mask |= (1 << row);
> > >                    break;
> > >
> > >                  case XK_Alt_L:
> > >                  case XK_Alt_R:
> > > +                  found_alt_or_meta = 1;
> > >                    dpyinfo->alt_mod_mask |= (1 << row);
> > >                    break;
> > >
> > >                  case XK_Hyper_L:
> > >                  case XK_Hyper_R:
> > > -                  dpyinfo->hyper_mod_mask |= (1 << row);
> > > +                  if (!found_alt_or_meta)
> > > +                    dpyinfo->hyper_mod_mask |= (1 << row);
> > > +                  code_col = syms_per_code;
> > > +                  col = mods->max_keypermod;
> > >                    break;
> > >
> > >                  case XK_Super_L:
> > >                  case XK_Super_R:
> > > -                  dpyinfo->super_mod_mask |= (1 << row);
> > > +                  if (!found_alt_or_meta)
> > > +                    dpyinfo->super_mod_mask |= (1 << row);
> > > +                  code_col = syms_per_code;
> > > +                  col = mods->max_keypermod;
> > >                    break;
> > >
> > >                  case XK_Shift_Lock:
> > >                    /* Ignore this if it's not on the lock modifier.  */
> > > -                  if ((1 << row) == LockMask)
> > > +                  if (!found_alt_or_meta && ((1 << row) == LockMask))
> > >                      dpyinfo->shift_lock_mask = LockMask;
> > > +                  code_col = syms_per_code;
> > > +                  col = mods->max_keypermod;
> > >                    break;
> > >                  }
> > >              }
> > >          }
> > >        }
> > > +    }
> > >    }
> > >
> > >    /* If we couldn't find any meta keys, accept any alt keys as meta
> > > keys. */
> >
> > --
> > _________________________________________Norbert Nemec
> >          Bernhardstr. 2 ... D-93053 Regensburg
> >      Tel: 0941 - 2009638 ... Mobil: 0179 - 7475199
> >            eMail: <address@hidden>

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_________________________________________Norbert Nemec
         Bernhardstr. 2 ... D-93053 Regensburg
     Tel: 0941 - 2009638 ... Mobil: 0179 - 7475199
           eMail: <address@hidden>