Hello all,It's true that in your case, one probably needs to redefine some
I'm responding to the requests for feedback on your website. I've just spent the afternoon installing and working with TeXmacs, and I have to say, I'm very impressed! For a long time, I have wished for a simple LaTeX editor that would let me work directly with the text, rather than forcing me to plod through lines and lines of code. I hadn't realized that TeXmacs existed, and I was very excited to get a chance to try it out. Thank you, very much, for putting so much time into such an impressive product.
I doubt that I will end up being able to use it, unfortunately, for the simple reason that doing so would involve a massive citation re-formatting effort that would require far too much time. Let me explain, in the hopes that this will be of some use to you.
When I first succeeded in getting citations to work, I ran into the same problem that Javier Arantegui did in this exchange on your list:
http://lists.texmacs.org/wws/arc/texmacs-users/2004-10/msg00036.html
I recognized the problem, however, because I've run into it in LaTeX before. I use chicago.bst, but in order to make it work properly I must load chicago.sty at the beginning of the document. The chicago.sty file redefines many citation and bibliography entries, so that they look correct when they are printed. Without it, chicago.bst creates terrible-looking entries in both the citations and the bibliography. (I have attached a copy, in case you are curious about exactly what it does.)
With chicago.sty, I can use commands like \citeN[123]{foo99} to get Foo (1999, 123), or \cite[123]{foo99} to get (Foo 1999, 123), or \citeNP[123]{foo99} to get Foo 1999, 123 -- you get the idea. And the bibliography is formatted just as political science editors want it to be, in particular, without bibliography labels. There are some other packages that do similar things, but all of them require some sort of .sty file at the beginning: at a minimum, they need \def\@biblabel#1{} in order to get rid of the bibliography labels. My guess is that the need for some sort of .sty file at the beginning will be very common for social scientists, actually.
I don't even think that I understand the LaTeX style file all that well, let alone how I could re-render it as TeXmacs! The only thing that comes to mind is a LaTeX-to-TeXmacs style file conversion program, which I would think (?) would be straightforward, given that TeXmacs imports LaTeX files, but I have no idea whether the style file syntaxes are even remotely comparable.Automatically translating LaTeX style files seems easy at first, but it appears
I always tell my students that, when they raise problems, they should also be willing to offer solutions. In this case, I fear that I don't know enough about your program to offer any intelligent solutions. I suppose it might be possible to convert chicago.sty over to a TeXmacs style file, but I took a look at the "writing your own style file" page, and frankly, it's quite daunting.
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