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[Miguel de Benito Delgado <address@hidden>]

I forgot to mention that it's probably better to modify the rendering
of standard tables than to add new macros. I did the former in my
recent commit to the SVN, but I suggested the latter in my first
email.

I don't think it makes much sense to mix both styles (captions above
and below figures) in the same document, so the "proper" thing to do
would be to simply redefine render-small-figure and render-big-figure
in your style file.

Best,
--
Miguel de  Benito.


On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:49 PM, Rodolfo Jordao <address@hidden> wrote:
> Thanks for both answers! this helps a lot :)
>
>
> On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 20:46:31 -0000, Miguel de Benito Delgado
> <address@hidden> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>   I just committed changes to the SVN which allow you to place
>> captions of tables and figures above them. If you can compile TeXmacs
>> from source, yuo just need to use the standard way to customize your
>> document using the little wrench icon in the focus bar. While having
>> the cursor inside a table or figure you'll see among the "standard
>> options" an item "Captions above".
>>
>> Or you can wait for the soon-to-come next release. ;)
>>
>> Best,
>> --
>> Miguel de  Benito.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Miguel de Benito Delgado
>> <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> welcome to the list Rodolfo.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Rodolfo Jordao <address@hidden>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> First, how do set the caption above the table floating object? i tried
>>>> to
>>>> modify the macro but my current knowledge of the inner language workings
>>>> are
>>>> quite limited... could someone help me out in this?
>>>
>>>
>>> I recommend you start with Tools->Edit macros... You can filter the
>>> macros on the left pane and look at how macros related to the one you
>>> are interested in are defined. This is how I found out that I needed
>>> to copy "render-small-figure", just inverting the rows in the table. I
>>> looked for small-table, then saw that it used render-small-figure
>>> (select "source" at the bottom left of the dialog.
>>>
>>> This is the result:
>>>
>>>
>>> <assign|render-small-figure-rev|<macro|type|name|fig|cap|<tabular*|<tformat|<cwith|1|-1|1|-1|cell-lsep|0spc>|<cwith|1|-1|1|-1|cell-rsep|0spc>|<cwith|2|2|1|1|cell-height|0.5fn>|<twith|table-valign|B>|<cwith|3|3|1|1|cell-hyphen|t>|<twith|table-width|1par>|<twith|table-hmode|min>|<cwith|1|1|1|1|cell-lsep|0spc>|<cwith|1|1|1|1|cell-rsep|0spc>|<cwith|1|1|1|1|cell-hyphen|t>|<cwith|3|3|1|1|cell-lsep|0spc>|<cwith|3|3|1|1|cell-rsep|0spc>|<table|<row|<\cell>
>>>
>>> <small|<\surround|<figure-name|<arg|name><figure-sep>><list-caption|<arg|type>|<arg|cap>>|>
>>>     <arg|cap>
>>>   </surround>>
>>> </cell>>|<row|<cell|>>|<\row>
>>>   <resize|<arg|fig>|<minus|1l|2fn>||<plus|1r|2fn>|>
>>> </row>>>>>>
>>>
>>> It looks awful, yes. Just copy the text and inside TeXmacs go to
>>> Edit->Paste from->TeXmacs. Something will be copied but you won't see
>>> it: just hit backspace to "deactivate" the macro and see its contents.
>>> You will have to deactivate the inner macros as well to see their
>>> contents.
>>>
>>> Now all you need to do is create a new small-table macro which uses this
>>> one:
>>>
>>>
>>> <assign|small-table-rev|<macro|body|caption|<compound|next-table><render-small-figure-rev|table|<compound|table-text>
>>> <compound|the-table>|<arg|body>|<arg|caption>>>>
>>>
>>> Again, copy the code and "Edit->Paste from->TeXmacs" into a document.
>>>
>>> You'll want to add these two to your own style file in
>>> ~/.TeXmacs/packages, so you can use it in every document without
>>> having to create a preamble or pasting the macros directly in the text
>>> as we did.
>>>
>>>> Second, is it hard to create a own type of title page? understand this
>>>> as
>>>> the amount of hack needed.
>>>
>>>
>>> Nope, it shouldn't be hard. Search for "title" in the documentation.
>>> You can also look at some style file and look at how it's done (you
>>> can search in code with Shift+F1). It can be a bit confusing at the
>>> beginning but it pays off ;)
>>>
>>>> Lastly, how do i change the bibliography layout? I need to make it into
>>>> a
>>>> harvard
>>>> style referencing (the package cite-author-year already took care of the
>>>> in-text problems!)
>>>
>>>
>>> This is quite more complicated. Either you write a scheme file copying
>>> what is done for the "tm-*" styles, or you use external (ru)bibtex. I
>>> have no experience with the latter, though.
>>>
>>> It'd be great to have CSL support but someone has to write it...
>>>
>>>> As a veteran of Latex (Not expert! just some years of experience) i must
>>>> say
>>>> that the basics that anyone would need are perfectly cooked up. The main
>>>> drawback that i found so far that may keep me from switching permanently
>>>> from Latex/Lyx is the lack of complete documentation if one wants to
>>>> "dive
>>>> in", the user manual does not have all that may be needed.
>>>
>>>
>>> This is true and in the spirit of many open source projects you'll
>>> have to see how things are done (in the style files, in the scheme
>>> code) to do your own stuff. It can be frustrating at times. However,
>>> the manual contains a wealth of information which is just not so easy
>>> to find / browse. Be sure to search thoroughly and / or ask here.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>> PS: on second thought I might add this -rev macros (and the rest for
>>> figures, unnumbered environments, etc.) to the code base. They are
>>> handy and common enough to be offered as standard variants of the
>>> standard ones. Stay tuned...
>>> --
>>> Miguel de  Benito.
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