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[Bertrand BRATSCHI <address@hidden>]

Hi Marc

I’m also using TeXmac for online classes. I started monday of this week, in 
combination with Google meet.
I’m very interested by the idea of " tester un partage d'écran symétrique ». 
Can you tell me more about the results of this attempt ?
II would like to try something similar.

Best wishes,
Bertrand



> Le 21 mars 2020 à 11:07, Mitran, Sorin <address@hidden> a écrit :
> 
> Yes, Texmacs is excellent for this and much appreciated. Another 
> online-lecture example: 
> http://mitran-lab.amath.unc.edu/courses/MATH383/Lesson18.webm (use 
> Firefox/Chrome)
>  
> From: <address@hidden> on behalf of Massimiliano Gubinelli <address@hidden>
> Reply-To: Massimiliano Gubinelli <address@hidden>
> Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 9:35 AM
> To: marc lalaude-labayle <address@hidden>
> Cc: Frank <address@hidden>, texmacs-users <address@hidden>, Vincent Douce 
> Mathoscope <address@hidden>
> Subject: Re: An opportunity for TeXmacs-based online learning?
>  
> Thanks Marc! I share your enthusiasm about TeXmacs as a blackboard and I'm 
> glad is working well for you. I myself have some lectures in it and was 
> pleased from the results.
>  
> Even having 5-10 min of recording to show as an example would be great! 
>  
> Max
>  
> 
> 
>> On 18. Mar 2020, at 14:27, marc lalaude-labayle <address@hidden> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi Max, 
>>  
>> I didn't record the session. I will next time, when it will more polished. 
>> I plan to ask students to install texmacs on their pc.
>>  
>> I'll let you Know.
>>  
>> Here us the message i sent this morning to all the colleagues teaching 
>> science in CPGE.
>>  
>> It's in french
>>  
>> Bonjour.
>>  
>> Je viens d'effectuer mon premier cours en visio, depuis ma campagne avec 
>> un pauvre débit ... L'outil testé : wiziq sur notre ent moodle.
>>  
>> Je cherchais un outil institutionnel (pas discord ni zoom) et Via ou 
>> BibBlueButton étant saturés, je me suis rabattu sur wiZiq.
>>  
>> Je cherchais surtout de quoi écrire comme sur un tableau sachant que : 
>> j'écris comme un médecin et je n'ai pas de tablette ni de stylet. Comme 
>> j'utilise TeXmacs (https://www.texmacs.org/tmweb/home/welcome.en.html) 
>> pour mes documents d'info et de maths, ça ma semblé naturel de l'utiliser 
>> comme tableau blanc. Et ça a vraiment été efficace : on tape comme en 
>> latex mais ça s'affiche directement (WYSIWYG ou presque). En partageant 
>> l'écran de cette application, les étudiants ont pu suivre les calculs en 
>> direct et intervenir par chat. J'avais coupé les micros et ne les ouvrais 
>> qu'à la demande.
>>  
>> Je vais tester un partage d'écran symétrique : les étudiants pourront 
>> aussi installer texmacs et partager leur propre écran lorsque je le 
>> demande. Wiziq laisse pas mal de droits aux étudiants mais ils se sont 
>> très vite disciplinés et ça n'a pas posé de problème.
>>  
>> Pour info, TeXmacs est un logiciel crée par Joris van der Hoeven, qui a 
>> montré le O(nlog(n)) pour le produit d'entiers dont certains ont parlé en 
>> début d'année. Je trouve texmacs vraiment très facile à utiliser, avec des 
>> raccourcis efficaces, des graphiques faciles à créer en direct, un 
>> interfaçage de python efficace.
>>  
>> Je suis par ailleurs opposé le plus possible à l'utilisation de logiciels 
>> autres qu'institutionnels de type discord ou zoom. Si les solutions 
>> n'existent pas ou ne sont pas fiables (Via par exemple en saturation), le 
>> ministère doit prendre ses responsabilités.Si je dois l'utiliser en 
>> dernier recours (et je crains que ça arrive vite :( ), ce ne sera qu'avec 
>> l'aval de mon administration.
>>  
>> Bon courage à tous.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Envoyé depuis un smartphone
>>  
>> Le mer. 18 mars 2020 à 11:28, Massimiliano Gubinelli <address@hidden> a 
>> écrit :
>>> Dear Marc, 
>>>  
>>>  glad to hear that! It would be possible to see the result? Or in 
>>> alternative that you record 5-6 min of "fake" lecture to have something 
>>> which we can use to advertise TeXmacs for such a use?
>>>  
>>> Thanks!
>>> Max
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 18. Mar 2020, at 11:21, marc lalaude-labayle <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Hi to all.
>>>>  
>>>> I do hope you're all OK.
>>>>  
>>>> I just made a two hours "web"class with texmacs as the whiteboard : just 
>>>> great.
>>>>  
>>>> For professional reasons, I wanted to use institutional tools : no zoom 
>>>> neither discord. So we chose wiziq in moodle (Bigbluebutton being out of 
>>>> order : too many connexions). And with the chat, the pdfs of my 
>>>> exercises and the screenshare of texmacs it was convincing.
>>>>  
>>>> I'll write to the colleagues of my organisation to make some publicity.
>>>>  
>>>> Thanks for such a great tool.
>>>>  
>>>> Best wishes to all of you.
>>>>  
>>>> Marc
>>>>  
>>>> Le mer. 18 mars 2020 à 10:45, Frank <address@hidden> a écrit :
>>>>> Dear Max,
>>>>> I have access to YouTube but I know that in China it is blocked. I 
>>>>> think that it is possibly important to advertise TeXmacs in China. I 
>>>>> was supposing that if we can offer highly compressed and somehow low 
>>>>> resolution version (say, in only several megabytes), then we can upload 
>>>>> it on our own server, but I don't know whether it is possible.
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>> Frank
>>>>> On 18/03/2020, Massimiliano Gubinelli wrote:
>>>>>> Dear Frank, 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 17. Mar 2020, at 13:14, Frank <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Dear Max,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks for that. I hope that the tutorial video in question would 
>>>>>>> also be available on the official site (it would also be beneficial 
>>>>>>> to have a possibly low resolution version available on the official 
>>>>>>> website for those who don't have access to YouTube) and announced in 
>>>>>>> the forum, of the existence of which more users will be aware.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  can you suggest a platform which is accessible to you? I suppose 
>>>>>> youtube is blocked by a firewall?
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  I'm not thinking to do it myself right now. :) I was hoping somebody 
>>>>>> would take up the task. (personally I'm deep into the rabbit hole to 
>>>>>> port TeXmacs to guile 2+)
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I found this very nice video of Vincent:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZbt3oZ0ro
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Somebody could do a similar video in english, even less fancy, more 
>>>>>> like Joris' tutorials.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> This would be very useful to popularize TeXmacs in this period.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 于 March 17, 2020 11:16:12 AM UTC, Massimiliano Gubinelli 
>>>>>>> <address@hidden> 写到: 
>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>  in this global virus crisis, me and many of my colleagues 
>>>>>>>> mathematicians need to broadcast lectures from home. Typical 
>>>>>>>> solution is either use slides or virtual blackboards connected to a 
>>>>>>>> tablet. I was wondering if there is an opportunity to advertise 
>>>>>>>> TeXmacs as an alternative solution. I myself did once a seminar 
>>>>>>>> using TeXmacs "live", that is projecting the TeXMacs window while 
>>>>>>>> writing the content as I would have done for a blackboard talk.
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> If some of you have some time and energy it would be nice to have 
>>>>>>>> another small video to show how to use TeXmacs to do online learning.
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> We could show a simulated lecture where you use the beamer mode as a 
>>>>>>>> balckboard to illustrate some theorem and maybe do some drawing, 
>>>>>>>> etc... I think some people could be interested in this solution. 
>>>>>>>> Handwriting is sometime not so pretty and preparing LaTeX slides 
>>>>>>>> time-consuming. So we could have some new users. Especially if we 
>>>>>>>> explain simple ways to do things.
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> I tried to send around your Joris' video where he prepares slides 
>>>>>>>> but a more targeted tutorial/presentation would be more interesting.
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> Vincent? you already have some experience in this. Maybe you could 
>>>>>>>> prepare a small example video for french speaking math teachers 
>>>>>>>> (either in schoor or at university)?
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 
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>>>>>>  
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Best wishes!
>>>>> Yours,