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Dear Ingor,

I did the necessary in revision 13836 on SVN.
I also added a 'render-caption' macro for customizing
the rendering of captions.

Best wishes, --Joris


On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 08:56:37PM +0000, Baumann, Ingor wrote:
> Dear Joris,
> 
> Thank you very much for your e-mail and your comprehensive help. 
> Unfortunately, I'm only now getting around to replying to you.
> 
> I didn't realize that changing the caption placement would take so much 
> effort. I tried your suggestion, but I can't get it to work.
> 
> Would it not be possible at this point to implement such a selection 
> routine (for the placement of the captions) in the next upcoming TeXmacs 
> release? This would surely help many users, since the placement of captions 
> (above tables and below figures) is common practice. Especially TeXmacs 
> beginners would benefit from this. Don't you think so?
> 
> Best regards from Germany.
> 
> Ingor
> 
> 
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> Gesendet: 12.01.2022 17:28:56
> Betreff: Re: Problems / questions regarding TeXmacs v.2.1.1.
> 
> Dear Ingor,
> 
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 09:29:49PM +0000, Baumann, Ingor wrote:
> 1.) I have written a book text with figures (big-figures) and tables 
> (big-tables). For this I used the tmbook style, which I have somewhat 
> adapted to my needs. For the figures I would like to have captions below 
> and for the tables above the respective object. I have tried everything, 
> but I can't get it to work. In TeXmacs v2.1.1. big tables are also declared 
> as big figures in the context menu. This is surprising. When I select the 
> "Captions Above" package, all captions are displayed on top of both 
> objects. If not, they are displayed below. There is only an "either... or". 
> Is there perhaps a bug in the program leading to this problem? Is there a 
> way to use the "Captions Above" package for tables and figures 
> independently? If not, how can I realize this?
> 
> This kind of thing is non-trivial, since figures and tables are indeed
> both based on the same rendering macros 'render-small-figure' and
> 'render-big-figure'.
> 
> There is nevertheless a general way for hacking this kind of things.
> As a first step, you should create new macros for the desired rendering.
> For instance, in your custom style package, you could create macros
> 'render-small-table' and 'render-big-table' for tables with captions above;
> you could simply copy the macros from captions-above.ts and change the 
> names.
> 
> As a second step, you have to hijack the 'small-table', 'big-table', etc. 
> macros
> and their unnumbered variants to use these new rendering macros instead of
> the default ones. That can be achieved by saving the original definitions;
> e.g., using scheme notation:
> 
> (assign "original-small-table" (value "small-table"))
> 
> You next redefine the macro by seting 'render-big-figure' _locally_ to
> 'render-small-figure'. Again in scheme notation:
> 
> (assign "small-table"
> (macro "tab" "cap"
> (with "render-big-figure" (value "render-big-table")
> (original-small-table (arg "tab") (arg "cap")))))
> 
> (Note that a similar approach could be applied if you want a special
> rendering for propositions that is different from the rendering of
> theorems, for instance.)
> 
> 2.) How can I display the header of the whole bibliography part in fancy 
> style (i.e. with a line, above it chapter and section name in small 
> capitals and the page number)? "Bibliography" is not a chapter. I have 
> tried everything here too, but I can't get any further.
> 
> Same kind of reply. I would hijack the 'bibliography' macro and
> let the hijacked rendering routine set the header to what you want.
> 
> 3.) How can I set the font size and the alignment for the captions?
> 
> With the above solution to 1.) you may simply change the way the captions
> are rendered when defining the customized macros 'render-small-table'
> and 'render-big-table'.
> 
> Best wishes, --Joris
> 
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