- From: Joris van der Hoeven <address@hidden>
- To: address@hidden
- Cc: address@hidden
- Subject: Re: texmacs styles programming (was: controlling table column widths)
- Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 23:30:36 +0200 (MET DST)
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One: Where are the language primitives defined?
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I looked at the styles yesterday: I'm having problems understanding
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the style language. I've read through all the documentation---but
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over an extended period of time---so it may be that I simply haven't
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integrated it together yet.
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I can narrow down the problem somewhat: when I look at lists.ts, I can
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see that I have a series of assignments, functions and macros. For
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example,
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<assign|thetag|<with|mode|math|\<bullet\>>>
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Might be translated as:
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thetag = \<bullet\> in the environment where mode=math
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Ok, that makes sense, but where is '<bullet>' defined? Is there a
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place where environment variables and their meanings are listed?
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I feel like I'm reading a language where I know the grammar, but have
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no vocabulary for nouns and verbs.
Please look at Help->implementation->data format,
although this document is a bit out of date.
The main TeXmacs constructs are listed in src/Basic/Data/tree.gen.h.
<bullet> is just a symbol with a special meaning in certain fonts.
See Help->implementation->fonts, fonts/enc/*.enc and
progs/fonts/*.scm.
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Two: How can I make the code more readable?
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Code like,
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<assign|itemize|<macro|body|<surround|<format|no page break
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before>|<vspace|0.5fn><format|no indentation after>|<with|left
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margin|<plus|<value|left
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margin>|3fn>|item|<macro|<vspace*|0.5fn><with|firs\
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t indentation|-1.5fn|<format|enable first
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indentation>><resize|<apply|thetag> |||r]1.5fn|>>|<arg|body>>>>>
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...is difficult for me to follow. Do you have settings in texmacs
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that can help to make it look more readable? (The colors do help.)
Unfortunately, no.
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Just a notion, but it seems it would be much easier to read this code
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if I could simply write the style in something more lisp-like. White
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space could be used for revealing program structure.
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(assign 'itemize
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(macro '(body)
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(surround ...
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)
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)
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Yes, I definitely would like some tree-like representation of styles,
but this will take quite some time to implement.
Moreover, it is not yet clear which things should be seen
in code-like form and which things not.
We often would like the <bullet> to remain a real bullet for instance.
Also, we might want to have the math-mode menus displayed,
when we are in a logical position where math-mode is active.
Etc.
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Note, I'm not an expert lisp user, but I can always find my way
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through it with help from emacs. The ability to get documentation via
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docstrings and interactive help is invaluable.
Well, the main documentation and tutorial are far from finished.
Any help on documentation is welcome.
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Three: gencc and C++ coding techniques
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Is there a way to use the standard templates library in texmacs source
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code? While working on the pipes.gen.cc code, I tried using some STL
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functions and gencc didn't like it. Is there a way to get access to
No, I do not like the standard C++ template mechanism.
That is why I replaced it by the modular gencc system.
I do not intend to mix the two mechanisms.
Best regards,
Joris
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