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Re: [TeXmacs] A bunch of questions from a novice, mainly about shortcut


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  • From: François-Xavier Thomas <address@hidden>
  • To: address@hidden
  • Subject: Re: [TeXmacs] A bunch of questions from a novice, mainly about shortcut
  • Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:01:17 -0700
Hi El,

Nice to know, definitely share your work! Now that I think about it, maybe a
wiki would be a better idea.
I think I remember mails about upgrading the website, since it's been a
while, but I don't know where that went. Anybody knows?

Anyway, maybe it'd be a better idea to start it in english first, unless
you're not that comfortable with writing in that language. In that case, I
can probably translate it.

As far as I am concerned, I'm finishing my current internship in less than a
month, and after that I'll have a few quasi-free months, so I'll try to help
the community where I can.

Cheers,
François-Xavier

On Oct 10, 2012, at 3:50 PM, El.Douwen wrote:

> hi
> i strongly demand a visual interface so totally personnalise the keyboard
> shortcuts...
> for the cookbook i have started one in french
> i send it to both of you in private mail
> maybe we could start a parallel work in our respective languages...
> Vincent
> ps : Jizhe, do you write in english or in chinesisch in TeXmacs ?
>
>
> Le 10 oct. 2012 à 23:56, Jizhe Zhang a écrit :
>
>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:14 PM, François-Xavier Thomas
>> <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Oct 10, 2012, at 12:57 PM, address@hidden wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> I just started to use TeXmacs. It's indeed a good tool especially to
>>>> write
>>>> small documents. But I encounter a bunch of problems described in the
>>>> following. BTW, I am using windows 7.
>>>
>>> Welcome, and glad to see you join us :)
>>>
>>>> 1 The document says that alt+right can generate a new column in the
>>>> table
>>>> environment. I tried, but the only thing happens is that on the left
>>>> footer
>>>> there is a line saying "keyboard shortcut: alt+right", other than that
>>>> nothing
>>>> happens. Is there anything I missed?
>>>
>>> Okay, I'm gonna have to agree with you on this one!
>>> Sometimes system-wide bindings interfere with TeXmacs bindings, so you
>>> might have to either go for trial-and-error (works most of the time) or
>>> try
>>> other meta keys (editable in something like Edit > Preferences >
>>> Keyboard, I
>>> don't remember exactly where).
>>
>> Thanks, now I see that it's not my problem :). Trial and error doesn't
>> work for me. In Edit->Preference-> Keyboard I cannot see the place to
>> change the meta keys. as opposed to most of the introduction :(. It's
>> sad that I cannot figure this problem out, as most of the documents I
>> write need to use tables.
>>
>>>
>>> If anybody has another idea, then I'd be glad to learn a little bit more
>>> about that! (maybe a way to display debug information about keys?)
>>>
>>>> 2 Obviously lots of commands are compatible with LaTeX, for example \[
>>>> is
>>>> equivalent to A+$. This gives me lots of convenience. But where can I
>>>> find a
>>>> list about what commands are compatible? The \[ thing doesn't appear in
>>>> the
>>>> manual at all.
>>>
>>> Interested in that as well. Most of the time, though, the shortcuts are
>>> amazingly easier than LaTeX. What kind of commands are you interested in
>>> particular?
>>
>> Alright, that's not such an urgent problem. Just curious :)
>>>
>>>> 3 How to insert the title with command? Especially where can I find a
>>>> comprehensive document about commands? In the manual it's mostly
>>>> keyboard
>>>> shortcuts, but I prefer these commands personally. They are easy to
>>>> remember
>>>> and similar to LaTex
>>>
>>> Usually I insert sections with ^1, ^2 and ^3, but titles only have the
>>> toolbar shortcut, AFAIK. Anyone knows better?
>>>
>>>> I think these are the most urgent problems I have when using TeXmacs.
>>>>
>>>> As a novice I also have some thoughts about TeXmacs. No doubt that it's
>>>> a great
>>>> word processor. I fell in love with it immediately after ten minutes of
>>>> trial.
>>>> However, I cannot find a very good document about this great tool. The
>>>> only
>>>> user document is only less than 100 pages long and lots of important
>>>> things are
>>>> too concise. Comparing to LaTeX, an entry level tutorial is about that
>>>> length.
>>>> I believe that it's one of the greatest obstacle when making this
>>>> fantastic
>>>> tool more popular. A novice like me will soon get very frustrated when
>>>> he finds
>>>> that lots of questions remain unsolved even in the so called user
>>>> manual. Also
>>>> the helping documents are spread everywhere and not consistent. The
>>>> downloaded
>>>> document is even not the same as the document on the website. Lots of
>>>> links on
>>>> the website are lost.
>>>
>>> I always feel intimidated by the fact that I use less than 10% of TeXmacs
>>> power, but alas there is still a lot of work involved...
>>>
>>> What I would really, really like is some kind of a cookbook (like
>>> http://coffeescriptcookbook.com/ or http://www.scipy.org/Cookbook) that
>>> showcases easy, intermediate and advanced use cases for TeXmacs. I could
>>> maybe write some of the easiest examples, but I'm like you, I'm sorely
>>> lacking knowledge in advanced TeXmacs topics...
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, I strongly agree that some cookbook will be of great help,
>> especially to new users like me. Maybe after I am familiar with
>> TeXmacs I will write some simple tutorials in Chinese and bring more
>> users to this community.
>>
>>> Anyway, I hope that helped in some way, or if not, that it'll spark the
>>> interest of a more knowledgable member of this mailing list!
>>>
>> Thanks a lot for your help!
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> François-Xavier
>>
>> Best
>> JZ
>


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