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Re: [TeXmacs] A bunch of questions from a novice, mainly about shortcut


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  • From: "El.Douwen" <address@hidden>
  • To: address@hidden
  • Subject: Re: [TeXmacs] A bunch of questions from a novice, mainly about shortcut
  • Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:50:04 +0200
hi
i strongly demand a visual interface so totally personnalise the keyboard
shortcuts...
for the cookbook i have started one in french
i send it to both of you in private mail
maybe we could start a parallel work in our respective languages...
Vincent
ps : Jizhe, do you write in english or in chinesisch in TeXmacs ?


Le 10 oct. 2012 à 23:56, Jizhe Zhang a écrit :

> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:14 PM, François-Xavier Thomas
> <address@hidden> wrote:
>>
>> On Oct 10, 2012, at 12:57 PM, address@hidden wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dear all,
>>>
>>> I just started to use TeXmacs. It's indeed a good tool especially to
>>> write
>>> small documents. But I encounter a bunch of problems described in the
>>> following. BTW, I am using windows 7.
>>
>> Welcome, and glad to see you join us :)
>>
>>> 1 The document says that alt+right can generate a new column in the
>>> table
>>> environment. I tried, but the only thing happens is that on the left
>>> footer
>>> there is a line saying "keyboard shortcut: alt+right", other than that
>>> nothing
>>> happens. Is there anything I missed?
>>
>> Okay, I'm gonna have to agree with you on this one!
>> Sometimes system-wide bindings interfere with TeXmacs bindings, so you
>> might have to either go for trial-and-error (works most of the time) or try
>> other meta keys (editable in something like Edit > Preferences > Keyboard,
>> I
>> don't remember exactly where).
>
> Thanks, now I see that it's not my problem :). Trial and error doesn't
> work for me. In Edit->Preference-> Keyboard I cannot see the place to
> change the meta keys. as opposed to most of the introduction :(. It's
> sad that I cannot figure this problem out, as most of the documents I
> write need to use tables.
>
>>
>> If anybody has another idea, then I'd be glad to learn a little bit more
>> about that! (maybe a way to display debug information about keys?)
>>
>>> 2 Obviously lots of commands are compatible with LaTeX, for example \[
>>> is
>>> equivalent to A+$. This gives me lots of convenience. But where can I
>>> find a
>>> list about what commands are compatible? The \[ thing doesn't appear in
>>> the
>>> manual at all.
>>
>> Interested in that as well. Most of the time, though, the shortcuts are
>> amazingly easier than LaTeX. What kind of commands are you interested in
>> particular?
>
> Alright, that's not such an urgent problem. Just curious :)
>>
>>> 3 How to insert the title with command? Especially where can I find a
>>> comprehensive document about commands? In the manual it's mostly
>>> keyboard
>>> shortcuts, but I prefer these commands personally. They are easy to
>>> remember
>>> and similar to LaTex
>>
>> Usually I insert sections with ^1, ^2 and ^3, but titles only have the
>> toolbar shortcut, AFAIK. Anyone knows better?
>>
>>> I think these are the most urgent problems I have when using TeXmacs.
>>>
>>> As a novice I also have some thoughts about TeXmacs. No doubt that it's
>>> a great
>>> word processor. I fell in love with it immediately after ten minutes of
>>> trial.
>>> However, I cannot find a very good document about this great tool. The
>>> only
>>> user document is only less than 100 pages long and lots of important
>>> things are
>>> too concise. Comparing to LaTeX, an entry level tutorial is about that
>>> length.
>>> I believe that it's one of the greatest obstacle when making this
>>> fantastic
>>> tool more popular. A novice like me will soon get very frustrated when
>>> he finds
>>> that lots of questions remain unsolved even in the so called user
>>> manual. Also
>>> the helping documents are spread everywhere and not consistent. The
>>> downloaded
>>> document is even not the same as the document on the website. Lots of
>>> links on
>>> the website are lost.
>>
>> I always feel intimidated by the fact that I use less than 10% of TeXmacs
>> power, but alas there is still a lot of work involved...
>>
>> What I would really, really like is some kind of a cookbook (like
>> http://coffeescriptcookbook.com/ or http://www.scipy.org/Cookbook) that
>> showcases easy, intermediate and advanced use cases for TeXmacs. I could
>> maybe write some of the easiest examples, but I'm like you, I'm sorely
>> lacking knowledge in advanced TeXmacs topics...
>>
>
> Yeah, I strongly agree that some cookbook will be of great help,
> especially to new users like me. Maybe after I am familiar with
> TeXmacs I will write some simple tutorials in Chinese and bring more
> users to this community.
>
>> Anyway, I hope that helped in some way, or if not, that it'll spark the
>> interest of a more knowledgable member of this mailing list!
>>
> Thanks a lot for your help!
>
>> Cheers,
>> François-Xavier
>
> Best
> JZ


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