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On 22/06/2023 21:53, Dmitry wrote:

Hi Basile,

1) It still seems to me that "move the cursor" is very different from
"move and click the cursor". Since the user experience in most other
programs is such that just hovering over an object is enough to
display its properties in the status bar.

The thing is the cursor is *not* the mouse cursor. TeXmacs being a typesetting program, the cursor is the *text* cursor, which you usually move around with your keyboard.

2) Thanks for the explanations of the two modes. Haven't found it in
the documentation yet, but again, all my previous user experience has
kept me from using multi-window intuitively.

As for cycling through buffers, there was some code written almost a decade ago by Miguel (with a minor contribution of yours truly), which was shared on this mailing list (around spring 2015) and I used for some time. In the end it was a bit unreliable (possibly due to qt), so I stopped using it myself.
I might go back and take a look at the code again and see if it makes sense still.

As for rewind, I didn't really understand what exactly you meant by
"Is TeXmacs returning to the beginning of the file because your cursor
stayed there?"
In buffer mode, whatever I do, if I switch buffers / files, they
always rewind to the very beginning, If I open files in different
windows, then of course there is no rewind

What happens if you are in buffer 1, type something on line (say) 100 and switch to buffer 2, than back to buffer 1? In my experience I am back in buffer 1 on line 100 (where the cursor is).
Of course (as Basile wrote), if I only scroll around reading (with the mouse), the cursor (again, the *text* cursor) is on line 1, so when I cycle back to buffer 1, I am back to line 1, where the cursor is.

Best,
Luigi

Regards,
Dmitry.

On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 9:08 AM Basile Audoly <address@hidden> wrote:

Hi Dmitry,

Nothing inconsistent here: moving the cursor requires clicking and not just
hovering the mouse.

1) At the very beginning I read in Help -> Getting started :
Please move the cursor inside this piece of bold text. You will
observe a cyan box that appears around it
But when I hover over the bold text, the cyan frame does not appear.
It appears when I click on the text. And nothing changes in the status
bar until I click somewhere. Does it change somewhere in the settings?

TeXmacs has two modes: one in which different files are loaded as buffers in
a single window. Another one where files are loaded as different windows. The
former is probably default in ubuntu, and the latter in macOS. You can switch
mode in the preferences (I forgot the details).

I am not aware of any hotkey for switching between buffers/windows and I miss
it too. My recollection is that tabs are buggy in Qt and this is the reason
why they are not used.

Is TeXmacs returning to beginning of the file because your cursor stayed
there? What happens is you move the cursor elsewhere and switch buffers back
and forth? I am not saying that what you get is normal behavior, I am just
trying to understand.

Regards,
Basile.

2) I don't understand the navigation system. If I open several files,
then there are no tabs, the only way to switch between open files is
through the Go menu (is it possible to somehow enable tabs or at least
switch between files using hotkeys?). But the most inconvenient thing
is that if I switched to another file, then when I return, the
position where I was is not saved, and I get to the very beginning of
the file.

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• Getting started & navigation problems, Dmitry, 06/22/2023
  • Re: Getting started & navigation problems, Basile Audoly, 06/22/2023
    • Re: Getting started & navigation problems, Dmitry, 06/22/2023
      • Re: Getting started & navigation problems, Luigi Amedeo Bianchi, 06/25/2023
        • Re: Getting started & navigation problems, Dmitry, 06/25/2023

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