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Hi Richard,

Inside a list, go to 'Focus -> Preferences' and
you will be able to set the spacing properties for your lists.

Best wishes, --Joris


On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 01:24:15PM +0200, Richard gomez wrote:
> Hello Jeroen,
> 
> i have already wrote a book with Texmacs (édition Ellipse, it’s a french 
> editor), and i like Texmacs a lot.
> 
> I will try to read all the information about fn, fns, etc. but i have first 
> to fix a new problem, a consequence of my change of interparagraph space.
> 
> I have made this choice :
> 
>         Document > Paragraph
>         interparagraph space : 0.5 fn
> 
> and i like the effect, but now, the vertical space between the items in the 
> lists has changed !
> 
> Before the interparagraph space change, I have changed the vpace in lists 
> like this :
> 
>        (in the bar there is a tool) > (item vspep) > (other) > 0.1 fn
> 
> Unfortunately, when i change the interparagraph space, it changes the vsep 
> in the lists too ! I would like to keep 0.1 fn in the lists, instead of 0.5 
> fn…
> 
> I hope that my explanation is clear (i am not sure).
> 
> Thank you for reading,
> 
> Richard Gomez
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Le 28 mai 2021 à 12:53, Jeroen Wouters <address@hidden> a écrit :
> > 
> > Hi Richard,
> > 
> > Good to hear you've found the problem! I've tried to use the "Search and 
> > replace" tool to remove such spaces between paragraphs, but haven't had 
> > any luck.
> > 
> > There's a description in Section 8 of Help -> Reference Guide -> The 
> > TeXmacs format of length units. It may be hard to find in the extensive 
> > documentation, but by pressing F1 you can search it, e.g. searching for 
> > "units" takes you there.
> > 
> > Nice to see you've made such a substantial piece of work in TeXmacs. 
> > Congratulations!
> > 
> > Best wishes,
> > Jeroen
> > 
> > On Fri, 28 May, 2021 at 12:39, Richard gomez <address@hidden> wrote:
> >> Jeroen wrote : 
> >> 
> >> "
> >> Hi Richard,
> >> Massimiliano's suggestion works for me. Perhaps we are not understanding 
> >> properly what the desired effect is. It would be helpful if you could 
> >> attach a small example document (together with any non-standard style 
> >> files, if necessary) and a screenshot where the spacing is indicated 
> >> that you would like to reduce.
> >> Best,
> >> Jeroen
> >> "
> >> 
> >> Thank you Jeroen.
> >> 
> >> I have just understood my mistake (few seconds before your email). I am 
> >> so stupid. 
> >> 
> >> Here is my mistake : when i writed few blocs of text, like below :
> >> ________________________________________
> >> This is block 1, block 1 , block 1, block 1, block 1
> >> block 1, block 1, block 1, block 1.
> >> 
> >> This is block 2, block 2 , block 2, block 2, block 2
> >> block 2, block 2, block 2, block 2.
> >> _______________________________________
> >> 
> >> i used to press twice ENTER (you can see this in the example or in my 
> >> first email), instead of pressing once ENTER, like here :
> >> 
> >> ________________________________________
> >> This is block 1, block 1 , block 1, block 1, block 1
> >> block 1, block 1, block 1, block 1
> >> This is block 2, block 2 , block 2, block 2, block 2
> >> block 2, block 2, block 2, block 2
> >> _______________________________________
> >> 
> >> This is why the solutions given by Massimiliano and Giovanni did not 
> >> work with me. But they were right !
> >> 
> >> Now, it works.
> >> 
> >> I am looking for some documentation about the menu 
> >> 
> >>       DOCUMENT > PARAGRAPH > Interparagraph space
> >> 
> >> because i feel quite lost with the different units : fn, fns, fs, etc. 
> >> 
> >> My document is a "book style" (more than 800 pages) and my editor have 
> >> made some requests about vertical spaces, etc.
> >> 
> >> Thank you for your help,
> >> 
> >> Richard Gomez
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> Le 28 mai 2021 à 12:25, Jeroen Wouters <address@hidden 
> >>> <mailto:address@hidden>> a écrit :
> >>> 
> >>> Hi Richard,
> >>> 
> >>> Massimiliano's suggestion works for me. Perhaps we are not 
> >>> understanding properly what the desired effect is. It would be helpful 
> >>> if you could attach a small example document (together with any 
> >>> non-standard style files, if necessary) and a screenshot where the 
> >>> spacing is indicated that you would like to reduce.
> >>> 
> >>> Best,
> >>> Jeroen
> >>> 
> >>> On Fri, 28 May, 2021 at 12:13, Richard gomez <address@hidden 
> >>> <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
> >>>> Thank you Massimiliano.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I have tried with the menu 
> >>>> 
> >>>>             Document -> Paragraph
> >>>> 
> >>>>             Interparagraph space : *** fn
> >>>> 
> >>>> but it did not work.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I have tried with negative values…
> >>>> 
> >>>> By the way, what does « fn » mean ?
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I have also tried with negative values in 
> >>>> 
> >>>>          <assign|par-par-sep|…> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> but it didn’t work (thak you Giovanni by the way).
> >>>> 
> >>>> So, i ask once again (for new readers) : is there any way to change 
> >>>> the height of the vertical spaces between the « blocks » of the text 
> >>>> in my book ?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Best regard,
> >>>> 
> >>>> Richard Gomez
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>  Le 26 mai 2021 à 20:34, Massimiliano Gubinelli <address@hidden 
> >>>> <mailto:address@hidden>> a écrit :
> >>>>  
> >>>>  You may want to make these changes in Document->Paragraph
> >>>>  
> >>>>  where you have all the global settings. You have a spacing for lines 
> >>>> and another for paragraphs, I think you can use negative values.
> >>>>  
> >>>>  m
> >>>>  
> >>>>  
> >>>>  On 26. May 2021, at 20:28, Giovanni Piredda <address@hidden 
> >>>> <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
> >>>>  
> >>>>  Perhaps it depends on the style. I tested it with the "generic" style 
> >>>> (and gotten the tighter spacing), which style are you using?
> >>>>  
> >>>>  Giovanni
> >>>>  
> >>>>  Am 26.05.2021 um 20:22 schrieb Richard gomez:
> >>>>  Thank you Giovanni.
> >>>>  
> >>>>  I have tried <assign|par-par-sep|0.2fn>, and this what i get :
> >>>>  
> >>>>  — if i try with a big size, like 1fn :  <assign|par-par-sep|1fn>, it 
> >>>> works ! Every vertical space is bigger, but this is not what i want.
> >>>>  
> >>>>  — if i try with 0.2fn or 0.1fn, it does not work. The vertical space 
> >>>> i get is bigger (just a little bit bigger) and i want it smaller...
> >>>>  
> >>>>  It seems impossible to me to reduce the actual vertical spaces…
> >>>>  
> >>>>  
> >>>>  I remember that i got the same result with the menu : FORMAT —> WHITE 
> >>>> SPACE —> (..)
> >>>>  
> >>>>  Maybe someone knows how to change the vertical space obtained 
> >>>> pressing ENTER…
> >>>>  
> >>>>  
> >>>>  
> >>>>  Best regards,
> >>>>  
> >>>>  Richard Gomez
> >>>>  
> >>>>  
> >>>>  
> >>>>  
> >>>>  
> >>>>  Le 26 mai 2021 à 19:31, Giovanni Piredda <address@hidden 
> >>>> <mailto:address@hidden>> a écrit :
> >>>>  
> >>>>  The environment variable that controls the spacing between two 
> >>>> successive paragraphs is par-par-sep.
> >>>>  
> >>>>  This assigns it to a tight spacing
> >>>>  
> >>>>  <assign|par-par-sep|0.2fn>
> >>>>  
> >>>>  and you can adjust to the liking of your editor.
> >>>>  
> >>>>  I hope that I am not missing important things, in case I hope someone 
> >>>> else can correct or complete what I wrote.
> >>>>  
> >>>>  Giovanni
> >>>>  
> >>>>  Am 26.05.2021 um 18:43 schrieb Richard gomez:
> >>>>  ###############
> >>>>  ### French version
> >>>>  
> >>>>  Bonjour,
> >>>>  
> >>>>  Je sépare les différents paragraphes d’une section d’un chapitre de 
> >>>> mon livre en sautant la ligne, comme par exemple ci-dessous :
> >>>>  
> >>>>  <<
> >>>>  
> >>>>  1 Titre de la section
> >>>>  
> >>>>  Bloc 1 bla bla bla bla bla ceci cela et
> >>>>  bla bla et bla bla bla.
> >>>>  
> >>>>  Bloc 2. La suite bla bla bla et bla
> >>>>  
> >>>>  Est-il possible de réduire l’espace entre les deux blocs ?
> >>>>  
> >>>>  (C’est une demande faite par mon éditeur qui trouve l’espace entre 
> >>>> les deux blocs trop grand).
> >>>>  
> >>>>  Merci de votre aide,
> >>>>  
> >>>>  Richard Gomez
> >>>>  
> >>>>  #################
> >>>>  ###English version
> >>>>  
> >>>>  Hello,
> >>>>  
> >>>>  
> >>>>  i am writing several blocs in the same section and i separate them 
> >>>> with a << line break >> (pressing ENTER). Here is an example :
> >>>>  
> >>>>  <<
> >>>>  
> >>>>  1 Titre de la section
> >>>>  
> >>>>  Block 1 bla bla bla bla bla ceci cela et
> >>>>  bla bla et bla bla bla.
> >>>>  
> >>>>  Block 2. La suite bla bla bla et bla
> >>>>  
> >>>>  My editor wants the vertical separation (vertical space) between the 
> >>>> 2 blocks to be shorter. How can i change the length of this vertical 
> >>>> space ?
> >>>>  
> >>>>  Best regards,
> >>>>  
> >>>>  Richard Gomez
> >>>>  
> >>>>  
> >>>>  
> >>>>  
> >>>>  
> >>>> 
> >> 
>