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[Frank <address@hidden>]

Hi all,

> Although the share of users who can do this may be higher among Linux users, 
> I wouldn't expect it from an avarage user. Even if they can do it, they may 
> not want to bother just to try out a new application.

Yes, and moreover, there are several projects to populate Linux, and we 
should expect new users to Linux. Darcy should know that, in China, there are 
decrees to replace Windows by Linux-based OSes in governments.

> > For GNU/Linux, I do think it is important to maintain a debian package and 
> > submit it to the official debian repo.
> >
> > Once GNU TeXmacs becomes an official debian package, it will benefit all 
> > debian derivatives.
>
> This would be great, indeed, but Debian has removed guile-1.8 several years 
> ago already.

There are also some problems about maintenance. I once came to the Debian 
channel on IRC, and they said that our maintenance of deb packages is very 
non-standard. For example, it is not properly configured to produce debug 
symbols (dbgsym packages), and there are various hand-written configurations 
which should be replaced by environment variables.

And it might as well be better to incorporate them into downstream distros such as 
Deepin and UOS. It is not for technical reasons, but for advertisement, especially if 
they would include it as a default "scientific editor".

Best wishes,
Frank

On 6/28/21, Jeroen Wouters wrote:
> Hi Darcy,
>
> On Mon, 28 Jun, 2021 at 22:55, Darcy Shen <address@hidden> wrote:
> > For most Linux users, building and installing GNU TeXmacs from the source 
> > code is not a hard task.
>
> Although the share of users who can do this may be higher among Linux users, 
> I wouldn't expect it from an avarage user. Even if they can do it, they may 
> not want to bother just to try out a new application.
>
>
> > For GNU/Linux, I do think it is important to maintain a debian package and 
> > submit it to the official debian repo.
> >
> > Once GNU TeXmacs becomes an official debian package, it will benefit all 
> > debian derivatives.
>
> This would be great, indeed, but Debian has removed guile-1.8 several years 
> ago already.
>
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=760986
>
> Best,
> Jeroen
>
>
>
> > ---- On Mon, 2021-06-28 00:47:03 *Frank <address@hidden>* wrote ----
> >
> >     Dear Darcy,
> >
> >     Maybe it is also better to try to publish our builds into repos of 
> > mainstream Linux distros. In particular, maybe we could try to suggest Deepin 
> > Linux and UOS to incorporate TeXmacs into their official markets.
> >
> >     Best,
> >     Frank
> >
> >     于 June 27, 2021 4:09:43 PM UTC, Darcy Shen <address@hidden 
> > <mailto:address@hidden>> 写到:
> >     >For high school education, I think we should spend more time for the
> >     >Windows version of GNU TeXmacs.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >It seems most GNU TeXmacs developers are using GNU/Linux and macOS.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >I just made 4 commits to improve plugin behavior on Windows.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >And next week, hopefull, I will make SageMath work on Windows.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >BTW
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >There are high school math teachers in China who are using GNU TeXmacs.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >Here is the video made by a high school math teacher in China:
> >     >https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Z7411n7Xv 
> > <https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Z7411n7Xv>
> >     >
> >
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