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Re: An opportunity for TeXmacs-based online learning?


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  • From: TeXmacs <address@hidden>
  • To: address@hidden
  • Subject: Re: An opportunity for TeXmacs-based online learning?
  • Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 07:13:20 +0100
Hi Marc, Vincent, Max,

It would be very interesting to post some of these videos on our official
video channel.
As you probably already noticed, there are already some educational videos in
French.

Of course, two types of videos are interesting:
- What you can produce as an end-result (like Vincent's video).
- How you do it using TeXmacs (and maybe in combination with other tools).

And videos in English would be very welcome as well, of course.

Best wishes, --Joris


On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 02:27:46PM +0100, marc lalaude-labayle wrote:
> Hi Max,
>
> I didn't record the session. I will next time, when it will more polished.
> I plan to ask students to install texmacs on their pc.
>
> I'll let you Know.
>
> Here us the message i sent this morning to all the colleagues teaching
> science in CPGE.
>
> It's in french
>
> Bonjour.
>
> Je viens d'effectuer mon premier cours en visio, depuis ma campagne avec un
> pauvre débit ... L'outil testé : wiziq sur notre ent moodle.
>
> Je cherchais un outil institutionnel (pas discord ni zoom) et Via ou
> BibBlueButton étant saturés, je me suis rabattu sur wiZiq.
>
> Je cherchais surtout de quoi écrire comme sur un tableau sachant que :
> j'écris comme un médecin et je n'ai pas de tablette ni de stylet. Comme
> j'utilise TeXmacs (https://www.texmacs.org/tmweb/home/welcome.en.html) pour
> mes documents d'info et de maths, ça ma semblé naturel de l'utiliser comme
> tableau blanc. Et ça a vraiment été efficace : on tape comme en latex mais
> ça s'affiche directement (WYSIWYG ou presque). En partageant l'écran de
> cette application, les étudiants ont pu suivre les calculs en direct et
> intervenir par chat. J'avais coupé les micros et ne les ouvrais qu'à la
> demande.
>
> Je vais tester un partage d'écran symétrique : les étudiants pourront aussi
> installer texmacs et partager leur propre écran lorsque je le demande.
> Wiziq laisse pas mal de droits aux étudiants mais ils se sont très vite
> disciplinés et ça n'a pas posé de problème.
>
> Pour info, TeXmacs est un logiciel crée par Joris van der Hoeven, qui a
> montré le O(nlog(n)) pour le produit d'entiers dont certains ont parlé en
> début d'année. Je trouve texmacs vraiment très facile à utiliser, avec des
> raccourcis efficaces, des graphiques faciles à créer en direct, un
> interfaçage de python efficace.
>
> Je suis par ailleurs opposé le plus possible à l'utilisation de logiciels
> autres qu'institutionnels de type discord ou zoom. Si les solutions
> n'existent pas ou ne sont pas fiables (Via par exemple en saturation), le
> ministère doit prendre ses responsabilités.Si je dois l'utiliser en dernier
> recours (et je crains que ça arrive vite :( ), ce ne sera qu'avec l'aval de
> mon administration.
>
> Bon courage à tous.
>
>
>
> Envoyé depuis un smartphone
>
> Le mer. 18 mars 2020 à 11:28, Massimiliano Gubinelli <address@hidden>
> a écrit :
>
> > Dear Marc,
> >
> > glad to hear that! It would be possible to see the result? Or in
> > alternative that you record 5-6 min of "fake" lecture to have something
> > which we can use to advertise TeXmacs for such a use?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Max
> >
> >
> > On 18. Mar 2020, at 11:21, marc lalaude-labayle <address@hidden>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi to all.
> >
> > I do hope you're all OK.
> >
> > I just made a two hours "web"class with texmacs as the whiteboard : just
> > great.
> >
> > For professional reasons, I wanted to use institutional tools : no zoom
> > neither discord. So we chose wiziq in moodle (Bigbluebutton being out of
> > order : too many connexions). And with the chat, the pdfs of my exercises
> > and the screenshare of texmacs it was convincing.
> >
> > I'll write to the colleagues of my organisation to make some publicity.
> >
> > Thanks for such a great tool.
> >
> > Best wishes to all of you.
> >
> > Marc
> >
> > Le mer. 18 mars 2020 à 10:45, Frank <address@hidden> a écrit :
> >
> >> Dear Max,
> >>
> >> I have access to YouTube but I know that in China it is blocked. I think
> >> that it is possibly important to advertise TeXmacs in China. I was
> >> supposing that if we can offer highly compressed and somehow low
> >> resolution
> >> version (say, in only several megabytes), then we can upload it on our
> >> own
> >> server, but I don't know whether it is possible.
> >>
> >> Best wishes,
> >>
> >> Frank
> >> On 18/03/2020, Massimiliano Gubinelli wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Frank,
> >>
> >>
> >> On 17. Mar 2020, at 13:14, Frank <address@hidden> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Max,
> >>
> >> Thanks for that. I hope that the tutorial video in question would also be
> >> available on the official site (it would also be beneficial to have a
> >> possibly low resolution version available on the official website for
> >> those
> >> who don't have access to YouTube) and announced in the forum, of the
> >> existence of which more users will be aware.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> can you suggest a platform which is accessible to you? I suppose youtube
> >> is blocked by a firewall?
> >>
> >> I'm not thinking to do it myself right now. :) I was hoping somebody
> >> would take up the task. (personally I'm deep into the rabbit hole to port
> >> TeXmacs to guile 2+)
> >>
> >> I found this very nice video of Vincent:
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZbt3oZ0ro
> >>
> >> Somebody could do a similar video in english, even less fancy, more like
> >> Joris' tutorials.
> >>
> >> This would be very useful to popularize TeXmacs in this period.
> >>
> >> Max
> >>
> >>
> >> Best wishes,
> >> Frank
> >>
> >> ??? March 17, 2020 11:16:12 AM UTC, Massimiliano Gubinelli <
> >> address@hidden> ??????:
> >>>
> >>> Dear all,
> >>>
> >>> in this global virus crisis, me and many of my colleagues
> >>> mathematicians need to broadcast lectures from home. Typical solution
> >>> is either use slides or virtual blackboards connected to a tablet. I
> >>> was wondering if there is an opportunity to advertise TeXmacs as an
> >>> alternative solution. I myself did once a seminar using TeXmacs "live",
> >>> that is projecting the TeXMacs window while writing the content as I
> >>> would have done for a blackboard talk.
> >>>
> >>> If some of you have some time and energy it would be nice to have
> >>> another small video to show how to use TeXmacs to do online learning.
> >>>
> >>> We could show a simulated lecture where you use the beamer mode as a
> >>> balckboard to illustrate some theorem and maybe do some drawing, etc...
> >>> I think some people could be interested in this solution. Handwriting
> >>> is sometime not so pretty and preparing LaTeX slides time-consuming. So
> >>> we could have some new users. Especially if we explain simple ways to
> >>> do things.
> >>>
> >>> I tried to send around your Joris' video where he prepares slides but a
> >>> more targeted tutorial/presentation would be more interesting.
> >>>
> >>> Vincent? you already have some experience in this. Maybe you could
> >>> prepare a small example video for french speaking math teachers (either
> >>> in schoor or at university)?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best
> >>> Max
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> --
> >> ?????? K-9 Mail ???????????????Android?????????
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best wishes!
> >> Yours,
> >>
> >>
> >

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