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Re: [TeXmacs] about some weird behviours


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  • From: Henri Lesourd <address@hidden>
  • To: address@hidden
  • Subject: Re: [TeXmacs] about some weird behviours
  • Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 17:54:15 +0100
Dennis Heuer wrote:

Document->Spacing->Interline separation is your friend.


there is no such path.

Sorry, in fact it's :
Document->Paragraph->Spacing->Interline separation


am i stucked in a mode again (i re-opened texmacs
but nothing changed in 'document'). interestingly, when the bottom of
the page is reached, new lines are pushing up the previous lines until
a certain line spacing is reached and the next page is created. i
find this behaviour quite weird. at least, i don't need it for nothing.


Yes, this is an annoyance, usually editors scroll one
line at a time, while TeXmacs scrolls half a page. To
be improved in the future.


btw., texmacs could profit from the new clipboard protocol of the
freedesktop initiative. it would make sharing (formatted) input easier
between 'modern' apps and texmacs.


Thanks for the pointer.


the question is not if the editor is structured. the
question is if this aspect should be in the way most of the time. there
are some cases when the discussed behaviour is useful. this are those
cases when the text structure is in focus. in the most cases, i.e. when
moving around the cursor or when clicking into the text, the discussed
behaviour is in the way. this is why this behaviour should be activated
intentionally and not all the time. this is rather a question of HCI or
heuristics.


Not false.


as far as i understand, the light-blueish outline shows one block of
specific format/settings (a paragraph with own font settings, a bold
text sequence, etc.). what i don't understand is how to clean up ugly
formatted text again, i.e. how to get two blocks compatible again to
make them one block without copying over the content of one block into
the other. i first tried to just delete the space between the blocks but
that didn't help. then i tried the source view but it doesn't allow me
to delete a definition without deleting its subordinated content too.


OK, I see. Yes, handling of redundant markup could
be improved, although, there is already a certain
number of things already done.


do i have to activate something to make
texmacs aware of the new fonts? why there are more fonts available in
'format' than in 'document'?


TeXmacs is not like word where you can choose a font by means of
its name. There is some kind of underlying logic to classify the
available fonts in more abstract categories, it seems. But I don't
know how it works exactly, in fact. What I know is that (to my
knowledge), the raw name of the font never appears in the markup.


i urge you to support 'modern' infrastructures like freetype and
fontconfig.

TeXmacs fully supports Freetype.


but also the toolkit's own open and save dialogs (texmac's
dialogs don't show umlauts correctly. the save dialog doesn't like
colons and umlauts in filenames.) same for stack icons and theme
support, etc. the latter both are easier supportable than one may think
(see freedesktop.org).


This is gonna improve soon, we are currently redoing
the gui (i.e., menus, filechooser, and the like). In
some months, everything will be completely different
in this respect.


Fonts with a type 1 equivalent on your harddisk will be vectorized for sure.


all my fonts are truetype :(


Isn't Type 1 the same as truetype ?


the document was located at a different path (my document folder) than
the shown path. the path in the window bar explicitly targeted to a
temporary version (with a code in the name) in the temporary space of
texmacs.


Strange. Usually you do File->Export->Pdf, and then it creates
a PDF file in directory where your file is located, and you
don't have these name problems.


i also tried the fullscreen mode but couldn't leave anymore (had to
crash X). there was a context menue available at right-click--but
without context. the entries do not react to clicking on them. there
doesn't even pop up an empty submenue.


This should definitely work. What OS are you using ?

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