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Re: [TeXmacs] Announcement: TeXmacs.app for MacOS X Tiger


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  • From: Ingolf Schäfer <address@hidden>
  • To: "Venkat Bhamidipati" <address@hidden>
  • Cc: texmacs <address@hidden>
  • Subject: Re: [TeXmacs] Announcement: TeXmacs.app for MacOS X Tiger
  • Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:06:16 +0100
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 05:29:28 +0100, Venkat Bhamidipati <address@hidden> wrote:

Hi,

On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 12:19 +0200, Peter Jung wrote:
To really attract a lot of mac users one ultimately would need a
native port. I am currently considering this possibility. But I am
not an experienced cocoa-developer, either.

I have some questions about the Mac native GUI port:
- Would it use Carbon or Cocoa - what would be preferable?

Preferable would of cause be Cocoa, because this would be portable to GNUstep and is the *REAL* native api for Mac OS X. By the way Cocoa and Carbon support direct PDF / PS drawings via Quartz, which might be very helpful.

- I was reading some earlier discussions in the archives about the
porting to cross platform toolkits like QT/WX - what are the thoughts
about porting TeXmacs to QT (or any other cross platform toolkit)?

I think it is definitely possible and should be considerded, but I would suggest to work in a different direction. I think we should not try to port to QT/WX /GTK/... but we should aim to use cairo instead of direct X11 calls. This would make TeXmacs easier to port and would also be an enrichment to TeXmacs.

- I was looking at the code for Win32 native port - for the Mac port,
are we going to similarly define wrapper XLib as a wrapper over
Carbon/Cocoa calls?

I do not think this is possible in Cocoa and it is even not desireable. The GUI should be redesigned to give not only the look but also the feel of a Cocoa appliaction.

With Carbon this is certainly possible. There are numerous examples like Mozilla, Emacs, etc. where things where done this way. But I know very little about Carbon.


If someone explains to me how we plan to do the GUI port, I am willing
to spend some time experimenting.

I am also willing to help.

Just my two cents,

Ingolf

Regards,

Venkat



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