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[Kostas Oikonomou <address@hidden>]

I have not followed this whole discussion about shortcuts 
too closely, but I feel that we have shortcuts running wild 
here.  Rather than remembering a *long* list of *short*cuts, 
many of them used infrequently, I find that using the menus 
or LaTeX-style \-commands occasionally, is exactly what is 
needed.

As far as exiting environments, I use the emacs Ctrl-f (as 
opposed to the right arrow)  and that works fine if you pay 
attention to the messages in the minibuffer.

I definitely do not want to see TeXmacs turn into another 
Microsoft Word with a whole new set of "shortcuts" unique to 
it.  Again, LaTeX has a very well thought out set of long 
command names that are easy to remember, for the occasions 
when you need them.

                                        Kostas

On 11/ 9/10 05:17 AM, Alvaro Tejero Cantero wrote:
> > If your verbatim environment is alone on a line,
> > then this behaviour conflicts with the natural behaviour of
> > inserting a new line.
>
> In 99% of the cases putting a verbatim environment alone on a line +
> then inserting multiple lines is useless (shouldn't you use \code for
> that?). In fact inserting a new line is maybe what should be done by
> S-Return, to be uniform with the behavior in lists.
>
> > Maybe 'return' is a bit too simple a shortcut for exiting.
>
> I agree that return is problematic because of the user expectations,
> but these are mainly on the main text (in mathematics it is OK to use
> return for exit)
>
> But this difficulty shouldn't stop us from finding something better
> than the right arrow which is really hard to find.
>
> A possibility would be Right Shift + Return to exit on the right side
> and Left Shift + Return to exit on the left side. I could live with
> that: both keys are big, accesible and have a predictable location on
> most keyboards.
>
> Ideas from others welcome!
>
> Álvaro.
>
>
> > Best wishes, --Joris