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["Sam Liddicott" <address@hidden>]

I support what Kostas said.

the \ commands, along with S-F5 (to stop interpolation of key-sequences) and M-\ (to force a magic \ in code section) are generally what I use; mostly because any other shortcut keys are not what I've come to expect them to be (and up till now shortcut keys weren't shown on the qt menu's), and I don't want to be learning a whole load of special shortcuts on texmacs to do the normal text processing things. For new things, it's fine.

Sam

On 09/11/10 13:31, Alvaro Tejero Cantero wrote:

Yes, but there's no analog in LaTeX to 'exit current' environment. And
the ambitions of TeXmacs are larger.

For me the generally well thought-out shortcuts of TeXmacs make up a
big part of its attractiveness, not to say that it is easy to remap
them.

Maybe what you want to provide is a "profile" with a minimalistic set
of shortcuts?

-á.



On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 14:28, Kostas Oikonomou <address@hidden> wrote:

I have not followed this whole discussion about shortcuts too closely, but I
feel that we have shortcuts running wild here.  Rather than remembering a
*long* list of *short*cuts, many of them used infrequently, I find that
using the menus or LaTeX-style \-commands occasionally, is exactly what is
needed.

As far as exiting environments, I use the emacs Ctrl-f (as opposed to the
right arrow)  and that works fine if you pay attention to the messages in
the minibuffer.

I definitely do not want to see TeXmacs turn into another Microsoft Word
with a whole new set of "shortcuts" unique to it.  Again, LaTeX has a very
well thought out set of long command names that are easy to remember, for
the occasions when you need them.

                                       Kostas

On 11/ 9/10 05:17 AM, Alvaro Tejero Cantero wrote:

If your verbatim environment is alone on a line,
then this behaviour conflicts with the natural behaviour of
inserting a new line.

In 99% of the cases putting a verbatim environment alone on a line +
then inserting multiple lines is useless (shouldn't you use \code for
that?). In fact inserting a new line is maybe what should be done by
S-Return, to be uniform with the behavior in lists.

Maybe 'return' is a bit too simple a shortcut for exiting.

I agree that return is problematic because of the user expectations,
but these are mainly on the main text (in mathematics it is OK to use
return for exit)

But this difficulty shouldn't stop us from finding something better
than the right arrow which is really hard to find.

A possibility would be Right Shift + Return to exit on the right side
and Left Shift + Return to exit on the left side. I could live with
that: both keys are big, accesible and have a predictable location on
most keyboards.

Ideas from others welcome!

Álvaro.

Best wishes, --Joris

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