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[Alvaro Tejero Cantero <address@hidden>]

Yes, but there's no analog in LaTeX to 'exit current' environment. And
the ambitions of TeXmacs are larger.

For me the generally well thought-out shortcuts of TeXmacs make up a
big part of its attractiveness, not to say that it is easy to remap
them.

Maybe what you want to provide is a "profile" with a minimalistic set
of shortcuts?

-á.



On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 14:28, Kostas Oikonomou <address@hidden> wrote:
> I have not followed this whole discussion about shortcuts too closely, but I
> feel that we have shortcuts running wild here.  Rather than remembering a
> *long* list of *short*cuts, many of them used infrequently, I find that
> using the menus or LaTeX-style \-commands occasionally, is exactly what is
> needed.
>
> As far as exiting environments, I use the emacs Ctrl-f (as opposed to the
> right arrow)  and that works fine if you pay attention to the messages in
> the minibuffer.
>
> I definitely do not want to see TeXmacs turn into another Microsoft Word
> with a whole new set of "shortcuts" unique to it.  Again, LaTeX has a very
> well thought out set of long command names that are easy to remember, for
> the occasions when you need them.
>
>                                        Kostas
>
> On 11/ 9/10 05:17 AM, Alvaro Tejero Cantero wrote:
>>>
>>> If your verbatim environment is alone on a line,
>>> then this behaviour conflicts with the natural behaviour of
>>> inserting a new line.
>>
>> In 99% of the cases putting a verbatim environment alone on a line +
>> then inserting multiple lines is useless (shouldn't you use \code for
>> that?). In fact inserting a new line is maybe what should be done by
>> S-Return, to be uniform with the behavior in lists.
>>
>>> Maybe 'return' is a bit too simple a shortcut for exiting.
>>
>> I agree that return is problematic because of the user expectations,
>> but these are mainly on the main text (in mathematics it is OK to use
>> return for exit)
>>
>> But this difficulty shouldn't stop us from finding something better
>> than the right arrow which is really hard to find.
>>
>> A possibility would be Right Shift + Return to exit on the right side
>> and Left Shift + Return to exit on the left side. I could live with
>> that: both keys are big, accesible and have a predictable location on
>> most keyboards.
>>
>> Ideas from others welcome!
>>
>> Álvaro.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes, --Joris
>>>
>>
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