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[Fabrice Arband <address@hidden>]

Hello Denis,

How do your fonts look like ?
I juste upgraded Texmacs from 1.0.7.9 to 1.0.7.10 and the welcome
message looks like this:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/texmacs.jpg

There is nothing new, the previous version had the same problem.
And the behaviour is the same problem on two different computers (both
are under windows XP). I have no problem with Texmacs under Linux, but
this bug prevents me from using Texmacs from Windows.

Cheers,
fabrice

2011/8/4 Denis J. Navas <address@hidden>:
> Thanks MIguel for your follow up.  I definely sit down to study this subject
> of fonts.  I have made no progress to the moment.  But I will inform the
> list if I learn something of importance to share.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Denis J Navas
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Miguel de Benito Delgado
> To: address@hidden
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [TeXmacs] TeXmacs 1.7.0.10 fonts in Windows XP SP3
> Dear Denis,
>   I am sorry to see that nobody has been able to help you out with your
> problem. Have you made any progress yet? I know nothing about the TeXmacs
> font system so I couldn't help you without spending a great deal of time,
> and I'm right in the middle of my exams... Please keep us posted on your
> progress.
> ________________
> Miguel de  Benito.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 05:38, Denis J. Navas <address@hidden> wrote:
>>
>> Dear group members:
>>
>>
>> SITUATION
>> --------------
>>
>> I have been unable to use other font beaside Roman, Concrete and DejaVu.
>>
>> Recently in this list, Aleksandr Dobkin contributed a zip file with an
>> ample collections of fonts.  I copied those fonts to my user folder
>> (C:\Documents and Settings\Denis\Datos de programa\TeXmacs), but because it
>> doesn't work as expected I copied to C:\SinMenu\TeXmacs\fonts, without a
>> positive result yet.
>>
>> The file my-init-texmacs.scm was copied to C:\Documents and
>> Settings\Denis\Datos de programa\TeXmacs\progs in both tests.  I know that
>> my-init-texmacs.scm worked because I now have a new menu item: 'FreeFonts'.
>>
>> But the problems are still the same as with previous TeXmacs versions:
>>
>> 1)  Some fonts render unreadable characteres.
>> 2)  Other fonts, are incapable to render spanish letters, like á é í ó ú Á
>> É Í Ó Ú ü Ü ñ Ñ ¿ ¡
>> 3)  Some fonts aren't aplied to the text.  I see no changes and I know the
>> face of some of these fonts.
>> 4)  Of the additional free fonts, only Times works.  The remaining fonts
>> (Palatino, DejaVu Serif and Liberation Serif), aren't applied to text, even
>> with the actions from the 'format' menu.
>>
>> The only fonts that works for me now, are:  Roman, Concrete and DejaVu.
>> With those fonts I can manage to have serif and sans serif types, but
>> between Roman and DejaVu are a great difference of style.  I wish that at
>> least have access to the whole DejaVu family.
>>
>> Just to complete information on my environment.  I am using Windows XP
>> SP3, spanish with a 102 keys keyboard configured to latinoamerican spanish.
>>  I included in machine path environment variable, TeXmacs directory, incase
>> this is of help.  I had ghostgum, gsview, MikTeX and other programs of
>> personal interest that TeXmacs is suposed to interface, but I have not been
>> able to use any of them from within TeXmacs, yet.  But this is other topic.
>>
>> I included a file with my tests (Prueba-caracteres.tm) and an inventory of
>> what fonts works and what does not.  I learned that this file is ansi
>> encoded instead of  UTF-8.  Could this be a source of problems?
>>
>> I included also, some configuration files: font_cache.scm, preferences.scm
>> and settings.scm in case that this could help to identify a potencial
>> problem.
>>
>> I read that TeXmacs can use font metric files from a LaTeX installation
>> (mine is MikTeX) to use raster fonts as needed.  But this does not happen 
>> in
>> my installaton.  Half a year ago I saw that this happened, but now I don't
>> understed why it does not happen.  My MikTeX installation is recent and 
>> have
>> used it little.  It is a full actuallized instalation. Maybe, TeXmacs needs
>> that all pk data be previosly built to get access to it.
>>
>> I suspect that my problems are asociated to two situations:
>>
>> 1)  The character tables or encodings, probably have a glitch with
>> spanish. If I copy from TeXmacs to Notepad (I am using a UTF-8 font, DejaVu
>> Sans), some characters are in reality others.  For instance, the aperture
>> interrogation sign is in Notepad the 3/4 character.  The opening admiration
>> is 1/2.  And the opening guilemet is \S and the closing guilemet is \T. 
>> This
>> last two cases aren't critical because I can do a search and replace in 
>> case
>> it is needed to copy text to other windows application.
>>
>> 2)  Some how, the postscript fonts lacks some complementary files.  I
>> can't identify what those file are, because the directory structure of 
>> fonts
>> in TeXmacs is different from MikTeX.
>>
>> The TeXmacs fonts manual (on Help -- Source code -- TeXmacs fonts), says:
>>
>>   ----
>>   "At the top level, <TeXmacs> calls a macro of the form\
>>
>>   <\verbatim>
>>     \ \ \ \ ($name $family $series $shape $size $dpi)
>>   </verbatim>
>>
>>   as a function of the current environment in the text. In the future, the
>> top
>>   level macro call might change in order to enable the user to let the
>> font
>>   depend on other environment variables."
>>   ----
>>
>> At the begining I have had a hard time understanding TeXmacs, but right
>> now I am comfortable with it and want to learn how to use it properly, but
>> this problem with fonts stops me to use TeXmacs in practical things.
>>
>>
>> WHAT  I  LOOK  FOR
>> -------------------------
>>
>> I like to know about how to configure fonts for TeXmacs.
>>
>> Could somebody point me to a specific manual or information, that explains
>> how to make fonts accesible to TeXmacs and correct, if it is the case, the
>> character table?
>>
>>
>> Many thanks in advance for any guidance in this matter and congratulations
>> to TeXmacs team members that have made available this impressive jewel.
>>
>>
>>
>> Denis J Navas
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