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Re: Hide TeXmacs UI by default?


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  • From: Kurt Pagani <address@hidden>
  • To: address@hidden
  • Subject: Re: Hide TeXmacs UI by default?
  • Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 00:42:11 +0100
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On 12.11.2020 23:21, Ibrahima Fall wrote:
> Hi all,
> For me it is better to show the UI by default. Hiding it can be made
> possible
> for some advanced users.
>
> best regards
>
> Le jeu. 12 nov. 2020 à 21:34, Amir Michail <address@hidden
> <mailto:address@hidden>> a écrit :
>
>
>
>> On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:24 PM, Massimiliano Gubinelli <address@hidden
>> <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>>
>> What about people that will complain that the UI is too terse and would
>> prefer to have buttons  (even if 1997'ish) around?
>>
>
> As a first step, you would hide the UI by default. Users could always
> change
> the default to reveal some always visible UI elements.
>
> After that, you could think about how to reduce the need for always
> visible
> UI elements by revealing UI elements only when necessary. When that is
> accomplished, the need for users to turn on always visible UI elements
> is
> reduced.
>
> Amir
>
>
>> Max
>>
>>
>>> On 12. Nov 2020, at 22:21, Amir Michail <address@hidden
>>> <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:13 PM, Massimiliano Gubinelli
>>>> <address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 12. Nov 2020, at 22:01, Amir Michail <address@hidden
>>>>> <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> The main strength of TeXmacs is not its UI but rather its WYSIWYG
>>>>> editing of high quality math documents. 
>>>>>
>>>>> So why not hide the UI by default so this main strength is more
>>>>> obvious
>>>>> to everyone?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What do you mean? 
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure we have to go along with every single comment in social
>>>> networks from people which never tried the program. You cannot please
>>>> everyone. Maybe more "fancy" icons would attract "fancy" people. But
>>>> then what?
>>>>
>>>
>>> First impressions matter. If the UI is not considered particularly
>>> innovative, then why not hide it and focus on what makes TeXmacs
>>> amazing?
>>>
>>> Also, many people find always visible UI elements distracting. It’s
>>> better to focus on the document itself and only show UI elements as
>>> needed.
>>>
>>> Amir
>>>
>>>> If somebody come by with nice replacements to the icons, I think
>>>> Joris
>>>> would be the first to adopt them.
>>>>
>>>> Max
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Amir
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S. See this
>>>>> discussion: 
>>>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/compsci/comments/jsyv18/an_overview_of_texmacs_from_altitude_or_why_it/
>>
>

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