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[Frank <address@hidden>]

This is what I asked before. More precisely, it would be better to have a 
mirrored window which contains only the content and the UI is hidden, then 
for teaching we just project that window, and we still see the UI on our 
computer.

Joris replied that this mirroring is implemented, but due to bugs it is 
hidden which could only triggered by some scheme code.

Best,
Frank

于 November 13, 2020 9:03:37 AM UTC, marc lalaude-labayle <address@hidden> 写到:
>Hi.
>
>I am not so sure to understand what Amir wants, maybe something like
>focuswriter : https://gottcode.org/focuswriter/
>
>I see one good point with such a possibility : to have a full
>whiteboard
>when teaching online.
>
>But, as Henri and others, I DO need the UI that i find really helpful
>for
>beginners
>
>Marc
>
>Le ven. 13 nov. 2020 à 09:49, Massimiliano Gubinelli
><address@hidden>
>a écrit :
>
>> I find all this discussion a bit empty and not well determined. An
>UI, by
>> definition cannot be removed, it is just the way an application
>interacts
>> with the user:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_interface
>>
>> Unless we make more precise the proposal I do not see reason to
>continue.
>> Maybe Amir means a Graphical UI? Or just the toolbar? Or what?
>>
>> Max
>>
>>
>> On 13. Nov 2020, at 08:54, Henri Girard <address@hidden> wrote:
>>
>> I used texmacs because there was an UI (very beginners with texmacs
>though
>> I use it for years) if it is taken away I don't see the use of
>texmacs ?
>>
>>
>> Le 12/11/2020 à 23:21, Ibrahima Fall a écrit :
>>
>> Hi all,
>> For me it is better to show the UI by default. Hiding it can be made
>> possible for some advanced users.
>>
>> best regards
>>
>> Le jeu. 12 nov. 2020 à 21:34, Amir Michail <address@hidden> a écrit
>:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:24 PM, Massimiliano Gubinelli <
>>> address@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>> What about people that will complain that the UI is too terse and
>would
>>> prefer to have buttons  (even if 1997'ish) around?
>>>
>>>
>>> As a first step, you would hide the UI by default. Users could
>always
>>> change the default to reveal some always visible UI elements.
>>>
>>> After that, you could think about how to reduce the need for always
>>> visible UI elements by revealing UI elements only when necessary.
>When that
>>> is accomplished, the need for users to turn on always visible UI
>elements
>>> is reduced.
>>>
>>> Amir
>>>
>>>
>>> Max
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12. Nov 2020, at 22:21, Amir Michail <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:13 PM, Massimiliano Gubinelli <
>>> address@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12. Nov 2020, at 22:01, Amir Michail <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> The main strength of TeXmacs is not its UI but rather its WYSIWYG
>editing
>>> of high quality math documents.
>>>
>>> So why not hide the UI by default so this main strength is more
>obvious
>>> to everyone?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What do you mean?
>>>
>>> I'm not sure we have to go along with every single comment in social
>>> networks from people which never tried the program. You cannot
>please
>>> everyone. Maybe more "fancy" icons would attract "fancy" people. But
>then
>>> what?
>>>
>>>
>>> First impressions matter. If the UI is not considered particularly
>>> innovative, then why not hide it and focus on what makes TeXmacs
>amazing?
>>>
>>> Also, many people find always visible UI elements distracting. It’s
>>> better to focus on the document itself and only show UI elements as
>needed.
>>>
>>> Amir
>>>
>>> If somebody come by with nice replacements to the icons, I think
>Joris
>>> would be the first to adopt them.
>>>
>>> Max
>>>
>>>
>>> Amir
>>>
>>> P.S. See this discussion:
>>>
>https://www.reddit.com/r/compsci/comments/jsyv18/an_overview_of_texmacs_from_altitude_or_why_it/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

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