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Re: Hide TeXmacs UI by default?


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  • From: Henri Girard <address@hidden>
  • To: address@hidden
  • Subject: Re: Hide TeXmacs UI by default?
  • Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 08:54:08 +0100

I used texmacs because there was an UI (very beginners with texmacs though I use it for years) if it is taken away I don't see the use of texmacs ?


Le 12/11/2020 à 23:21, Ibrahima Fall a écrit :
Hi all,
For me it is better to show the UI by default. Hiding it can be made possible for some advanced users.

best regards

Le jeu. 12 nov. 2020 à 21:34, Amir Michail <address@hidden> a écrit :


On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:24 PM, Massimiliano Gubinelli <address@hidden> wrote:

What about people that will complain that the UI is too terse and would prefer to have buttons  (even if 1997'ish) around?


As a first step, you would hide the UI by default. Users could always change the default to reveal some always visible UI elements.

After that, you could think about how to reduce the need for always visible UI elements by revealing UI elements only when necessary. When that is accomplished, the need for users to turn on always visible UI elements is reduced.

Amir


Max


On 12. Nov 2020, at 22:21, Amir Michail <address@hidden> wrote:

On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:13 PM, Massimiliano Gubinelli <address@hidden> wrote:



On 12. Nov 2020, at 22:01, Amir Michail <address@hidden> wrote:

Hello,

The main strength of TeXmacs is not its UI but rather its WYSIWYG editing of high quality math documents. 

So why not hide the UI by default so this main strength is more obvious to everyone?



What do you mean? 

I'm not sure we have to go along with every single comment in social networks from people which never tried the program. You cannot please everyone. Maybe more "fancy" icons would attract "fancy" people. But then what?

First impressions matter. If the UI is not considered particularly innovative, then why not hide it and focus on what makes TeXmacs amazing? Also, many people find always visible UI elements distracting. It’s better to focus on the document itself and only show UI elements as needed. Amir If somebody come by with nice replacements to the icons, I think Joris would be the first to adopt them.

Max


Amir

P.S. See this discussion: https://www.reddit.com/r/compsci/comments/jsyv18/an_overview_of_texmacs_from_altitude_or_why_it/



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