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[Frank <address@hidden>]

Hello all,

On the other hand, for the UI, I don't know how texmacs depends on Qt, and I 
don't know how flexible is the interface that Qt provides. But I find that 
the way that new GNOME desktop organizes seems a good idea: the functionality 
is driven by command: when you input something (eg. Font), GNOME desktop will 
search for that functionality (eg. GNOME tweak -> Font settings). I suppose 
that if texmacs would implement this, we should not do it manually, but using 
something that Qt furnishes: an interface to search the pattern among all 
dialogs, settings and buttons (it is quite generic and I support that it is 
part of Qt).

Best,
Frank

于 November 13, 2020 8:49:43 AM UTC, Massimiliano Gubinelli <address@hidden> 
写到:
>I find all this discussion a bit empty and not well determined. An UI,
>by definition cannot be removed, it is just the way an application
>interacts with the user:
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_interface
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_interface>
>
>Unless we make more precise the proposal I do not see reason to
>continue. Maybe Amir means a Graphical UI? Or just the toolbar? Or
>what?
>
>Max
>
>
>> On 13. Nov 2020, at 08:54, Henri Girard <address@hidden> wrote:
>> 
>> I used texmacs because there was an UI (very beginners with texmacs
>though I use it for years) if it is taken away I don't see the use of
>texmacs ?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Le 12/11/2020 à 23:21, Ibrahima Fall a écrit :
>>> Hi all,
>>> For me it is better to show the UI by default. Hiding it can be made
>possible for some advanced users.
>>> 
>>> best regards
>>> 
>>> Le jeu. 12 nov. 2020 à 21:34, Amir Michail <address@hidden
><mailto:address@hidden>> a écrit :
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:24 PM, Massimiliano Gubinelli
><address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> What about people that will complain that the UI is too terse and
>would prefer to have buttons  (even if 1997'ish) around?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> As a first step, you would hide the UI by default. Users could
>always change the default to reveal some always visible UI elements.
>>> 
>>> After that, you could think about how to reduce the need for always
>visible UI elements by revealing UI elements only when necessary. When
>that is accomplished, the need for users to turn on always visible UI
>elements is reduced.
>>> 
>>> Amir
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Max
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 12. Nov 2020, at 22:21, Amir Michail <address@hidden
><mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:13 PM, Massimiliano Gubinelli
><address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 12. Nov 2020, at 22:01, Amir Michail <address@hidden
><mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The main strength of TeXmacs is not its UI but rather its
>WYSIWYG editing of high quality math documents. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So why not hide the UI by default so this main strength is more
>obvious to everyone?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What do you mean? 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm not sure we have to go along with every single comment in
>social networks from people which never tried the program. You cannot
>please everyone. Maybe more "fancy" icons would attract "fancy" people.
>But then what?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> First impressions matter. If the UI is not considered particularly
>innovative, then why not hide it and focus on what makes TeXmacs
>amazing?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also, many people find always visible UI elements distracting.
>It’s better to focus on the document itself and only show UI elements
>as needed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Amir
>>>>> 
>>>>>> If somebody come by with nice replacements to the icons, I think
>Joris would be the first to adopt them.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Max
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Amir
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> P.S. See this discussion:
>https://www.reddit.com/r/compsci/comments/jsyv18/an_overview_of_texmacs_from_altitude_or_why_it/
><https://www.reddit.com/r/compsci/comments/jsyv18/an_overview_of_texmacs_from_altitude_or_why_it/>
>>> 

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